If you watched the above film clip [only 6 min] you would be told that the Umbrella Man was supposedly protesting Nevile Chamberlain and [I guess] wanted JFK to feel his anger by raising it in front of him? The HSCA accepted this yarn. I find it difficult to because---He failed to come forward for over 12 years as a witness to a homicide...and his story reeks of more crapola than could be put in any umpty-hundred umbrellas. Photographs show that he sat down real cozy with another no show to the police...The Dark Complected Man and seemingly had a chit-chat apparently about the event that had unfolded. Some photos show that The DCM might have had a small walkie talkie in his hip pocket. At the passing limo [in the Zapruder film] ..the DCM is seen to lower his hand as one signaling to open fire.
Were they signal men? Nobody seemed to care.
It is often said that the umbrella man or the dark complected man were there to give a signal to the shooters for the shooting to begin. Can someone explain why there would need to be a signal like this? Why not just instruct the shooters before hand to shoot when the limo gets to the Stemmons freeway sign? What would be the point of having someone AT the Stemmons freeway sign waving his hands or moving an umbrella to signal for the shooting to begin?
(https://i.ibb.co/C719rsQ/Signal-Man.jpg)
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But it is a camera. Held just above waist height.A waist high camera? OK there were professional ones...Oswald had one supposedly. But who sticks these cameras in their back pocket? Who speaks into a camera? How come this camera has an antenna? If he took any pictures at all, where are they? Why didn't he go look behind the fence too? He could have snapped some photos of a killer. Why didn't he at least come to the police with information [shots heard etc.]?
If you watched the above film clip [only 6 min] you would be told that the Umbrella Man was supposedly protesting Nevile Chamberlain and [I guess] wanted JFK to feel his anger by raising it in front of him? The HSCA accepted this yarn. I find it difficult to because---He failed to come forward for over 12 years as a witness to a homicide...and his story reeks of more crapola than could be put in any umpty-hundred umbrellas. Photographs show that he sat down real cozy with another no show to the police...The Dark Complected Man and seemingly had a chit-chat apparently about the event that had unfolded. Some photos show that The DCM might have had a small walkie talkie in his hip pocket. At the passing limo [in the Zapruder film] ..the DCM is seen to lower his hand as one signaling to open fire.
Were they signal men? Nobody seemed to care.
I won't bother correcting the rest of your post.I then will proceed to correct yours....This fella Witt SAID that he was protesting. Like JFK would pick this oddity out of a crowd and understand what it meant. Someone fingered Witt as a possiblity of being the umbrella guy. The HSCA found him not the other way around. The chances of someone raising up an umbrella right when the president was getting shot at and then refolding it...sitting down and having a nice chat with the guy with the walkie talkie and then calmly walking away amid all the commotion just defies the imagination... but I guess not yours.
...sitting down and having a nice chat with the guy with the walkie talkie and then calmly walking away amid all the commotion just defies the imagination... but I guess not yours.
Are you sure, instead of disappearing into the crowd along with the teams of assassin's and their spotters and etc, Umbrella Man and Walkie Talkie Man just decide to sit down and let themselves be photographed, does that really make sense?
And are you sure that Walkie Talkie Man even has a walkie talkie?
JohnM
I then will proceed to correct yours....This fella Witt SAID that he was protesting. Like JFK would pick this oddity out of a crowd and understand what it meant. Someone fingered Witt as a possiblity of being the umbrella guy. The HSCA found him not the other way around. The chances of someone raising up an umbrella right when the president was getting shot at and then refolding it...sitting down and having a nice chat with the guy with the walkie talkie and then calmly walking away amid all the commotion just defies the imagination... but I guess not yours.
Are you sure, instead of disappearing into the crowd along with the teams of assassin's and their spotters and etc, Umbrella Man and Walkie Talkie Man just decide to sit down and let themselves be photographed, does that really make sense?
JohnM
Seems Witts confirms that the limo stopped. Something the Zapruder film fails to show.
“At this time, there was the car stopping, the screeching of tires, the jamming on of brakes, motorcycle patrolman right there beside one of the cars. One car ran upon the President's car and a man jumped off and jumped on the back. These were scenes that unfolded as I reached the point to where I was seeing things.”
Wrong again, Jerry. https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol4/pdf/HSCA_Vol4_0925_7_Witt.pdf Bad luck, SMART GUY. :D :D :D
Mr. FAUNTROY. Terrible had happened?Stupid umbrella was in the way?
Mr. WITT. Had happened, yes, I was stunned.
Mr. FAUNTROY. I must admit that my reaction to the picture by
which you were ultimately identified was one of a very cool cat.
That is, you look rather cool there to me. But you were--
Mr. WITT. I can assure you I was not all that cool. I think one of
my reactions was knowing that I was there with this stupid um-
brella and heckling the President and-of course, I didn't know
that the President had been killed. As a matter of fact, I didn't
know he had been shot.
If the limo stopped then that made it easier for lho to shoot JFK. Cbs were trying to hit a moving target in their reconstruction. Whereas lho was aiming at a stationary target if the limo was stopped.It was a momentary braking. A driver fearing he was going into an ambush from the front it seems.
Stupid umbrella was in the way?
What if he had the umbrella open way before he said so?
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What if he had the umbrella open way before he said so?
So maybe Witt's umbrella protest was aimed not just at the Kennedys (who he figured weren't about to apologize for Joe Kennedy's "appeasement") and more at the politicians and reporters who were in the following cars.
Is that what he testified?
You mean like aimed at all society? :D
PareidoliaApophenia= Maybe he just thought it was raining.
Let's utterly-constantly speculate until the end of time.
More at the politicians and reporters who were in the following cars that one day. Witt supposedly never did anything like that again. Poor arch-right fanatic missed out on voting for Trump but he lived out his life in a bubble in Dallas.
Wordage and semantics sure make make your imagination take flight.
Nah. Just one step at a time. No need to spread the BS around the web about an open umbrella in the Moorman Cycle Photo. Case closed. :P
More at the politicians and reporters who were in the following cars that one day. Witt supposedly never did anything like that again. Poor arch-right fanatic missed out on voting for Trump but he lived out his life in a bubble in Dallas.
Wordage and semantics sure make make your imagination take flight.
Nah. Just one step at a time. No need to spread the BS around the web about an open umbrella in the Moorman Cycle Photo. Case closed. :P
If you remembered the BLM protests last year, the right wing white supremacist infiltrators committing violence were all holding black umbrellas as a symbol.Perhaps a link on mass umbrella toting interlopers wearing GOP bands on their right arms could be provided?
The umbrella man here is very interesting. If you remembered the BLM protests last year, the right wing white supremacist infiltrators committing violence were all holding black umbrellas as a symbol.
The umbrella man here is very interesting. If you remembered the BLM protests last year, the right wing white supremacist infiltrators committing violence were all holding black umbrellas as a symbol.
JFK assassination: Why suspicions still linger about 'Umbrella Man'
The man with the black umbrella in the Dallas crowd on the day of the JFK assassination remains an enigma to some and a sinister figure to others. What's wrong with the official explanation about Umbrella Man?
November 22, 2013
Nov. 22, 1963 was not rainy, and yet there he was in the crowd in Dallas's Dealey Square as President John F. Kennedy's motorcade passed by – the man with the black umbrella.
Through the 50 years since the JFK assassination robbed Americans of any semblance of political innocence, questions have persisted about that man and why he opened and pumped his umbrella in the moments before the president was shot. Was the hoisting of the umbrella a signal? Was the umbrella itself a weapon? Did the man know Lee Harvey Oswald?
The explanation from the man himself, coming 15 years later in congressional testimony before the House Select Committee on Assassinations, has not put to rest all suspicions (as is the case with so many other facets of the JFK assassination). Today, 6 in 10 Americans do not believe the official version of what happened – specifically, that Oswald acted alone. Novelist John Updike was once prompted to write that confusion about Umbrella Man hangs over the assassination, dangling around “history’s neck like a fetish.”
“In all of Dallas, there appears to be exactly one person standing under an open black umbrella. And that person is standing where the shots begin to rain into the limousine,” Josiah “Tink” Thompson, author of “Six Seconds in Dallas,” says in a 2011 documentary short by filmmaker Errol Morris. “Can anyone come up with a nonsinister explanation for this? Hmm?”
Louie Steven Witt, aka Umbrella Man, offered one to Congress when he voluntarily came forward to testify – and a peculiar one it was. In his 1978 testimony, he said he had known nothing about the controversy surrounding his rain gear. The umbrella had indeed been intended to convey a message, Mr. Witt told lawmakers, but to Kennedy himself, not to any co-conspirators in an assassination plot. He called his actions that day "a bad joke."
But the photos and film footage of Umbrella Man's actions seem to many to defy explanation – and so they interpret the images themselves.
“One theory is that the assassins wanted Kennedy to know (in his final seconds) exactly why he was being killed,” writes blogger Croft Randle. “The umbrella symbolized Kennedy’s … refusal to provide a covering ‘umbrella’ of air support during the CIA’s failed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. The term had been widely used and the significance of the raised umbrella would have instantly been understood by Kennedy.”
In director Oliver Stone’s 1991 movie, “JFK,” the Umbrella Man is a signal man. Fox News commentator Bill O’Reilly cut his reportorial teeth on the Umbrella Man story.
Mr. Witt, in front of Congress, was asked specifically whether the umbrella was equipped with a shooting mechanism that could launch a flechette. He answered no. Indeed, he brought what he said was the same umbrella to the hearing to demonstrate that it was just an average black umbrella.
When one congressman suggested that Witt thought of himself as a “cool cat,” he replied, "I can assure you I was not all that cool. I think one of my reactions was knowing that I was there with this stupid umbrella and heckling the president."
"I would have to describe it as kind of like a bad joke that had gone sour, or a practical joke you pulled on someone that had gone sour."
The umbrella, Witt explained, was a visual protest, not of Kennedy’s policies, but of the backing that JFK's father, Joseph P. Kennedy Sr., gave to Britain's umbrella-toting Neville Chamberlain and his appeasement policies toward the Nazis in the late 1930s.
“In a coffee break conversation, someone had mentioned that the umbrella was a sore spot with the Kennedy family,” Witt told lawmakers. “Being a conservative-type fellow, I sort of placed him in the liberal camp and I was just going to kind of do a little heckling.”
Asked whether he had anything to add, Witt said, “If the 'Guinness Book of World Records' had a category for people doing the wrong thing at the wrong time in the wrong place, I would be No. 1 in that position with not even a close runner-up.”
An innocent explanation, but is it true? Mr. Thompson, interviewed in the Errol Morris documentary, calls the explanation “just wacky enough it has to be true.”
Others say there’s no definitive proof that Witt was in fact the Umbrella Man. He fit the image: tall, thin, white. He was a 53-year-old Dallas warehouse manager, according to an AP story at the time he gave his testimony. Since that day, little is known of what became of Witt. He would be 88 now.
For some, the Umbrella Man has become a cautionary tale about America’s search for truth and meaning from the assassination, a search that itself has become a sort of societal addiction, in which facts, historical research, and theories continue to clash. For Dallas Observer columnist Jim Schutze, the investigation itself can muddy understanding, as when a mundane detail – a lone man with an umbrella on a sunny Dallas morning, for instance – becomes, as Mr. Schutze wrote recently, a "trap door" that leads to a "quantum universe of weirdness."
Believe what you will, but this much is true: No umbrellas are allowed in Dealey Plaza during Friday's public commemoration of the assassination.
https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2013/1122/JFK-assassination-Why-suspicions-still-linger-about-Umbrella-Man
(https://i.postimg.cc/28ySSBgG/Rip-Robertson-Umbrella-Pic.jpg)
The man with the umbrella in this pic is allegedly Rip Robertson in 1964. It was posted by John O'Hare's son
People have speculated Rip & O'Hare are the guys pictured in the plaza.
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O'Hare's son, so far, hasn't said if he believes it was his father & Rip Robertson photographed in dealey plaza. But I thought it was a hint that he posted this pic of his father's friend Rip!
BTW, November 24th 1964 CIA led an invasion into the Congo (Assault on Stanleyville – November 1964), to free some hostages, which O'Hare's son said this pic was then taken (in the Congo). Would be interesting to know the pics real date. Kinda like Rip might have been commemorating something with this umbrella and bottle of booze in his other hand. Just my opinion ... of course.
Hi Robert, I just wanted you to know that the photo of Roberson with the umbrella had a real impact ....
I've been ridiculed and mocked because I've pointed out the red rings on the windows of the TSBD were a message to JFK reminding him that he had pulled the air cover for the brigade at Red Beach BOP .
( JFK didn't pull the air cover, but the CIA handlers lied to the Cubans and told them that JFK had promised US Navy air cover)
Red Beach was marked for the expected aircover ....Red Rings had been placed on the beach to identify the Brigade's position.
The red rings on the windows of the TSBD came from the same mind that would hold an open umbrella and a bottle of booze....
Why aren't you concerned the photo might be faked.
(https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/userpics/10001/Peter_Lemkin_2.jpg)
The rings concerned fire safety regulations. ::)
The man with the black umbrella in the Dallas crowd on the day of the JFK assassination remains an enigma to some and a sinister figure to others.1 The Signal Man on Elm Street was the thread title given by the poster so I thought that is what he believed.
Believe what you will, but this much is true: No umbrellas are allowed in Dealey Plaza during Friday's public commemoration of the assassination.
https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2013/1122/JFK-assassination-Why-suspicions-still-linger-about-Umbrella-Man
In Dallas, about 5,000 people gathered under a bitterly cold drizzle for the understated ceremony in Dealey Plaza. In a nod to Kennedy’s military service, the US naval academy men’s glee club performed America the Beautiful. Access to Dealey Plaza was tightly controlled: distributed through a lottery, and Dallas police conducted background checks on the winners.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/22/jfk-50th-anniversary-assassination-live
“One theory is that the assassins wanted Kennedy to know (in his final seconds) exactly why he was being killed,” writes blogger Croft Randle. “The umbrella symbolized Kennedy’s … refusal to provide a covering ‘umbrella’ of air support during the CIA’s failed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. The term had been widely used and the significance of the raised umbrella would have instantly been understood by Kennedy.”
The umbrella plus the red rings on the windows of the TSBD was intended to remind JFK that he had pulled the UMBRELLA OF AIR COVER and the red rings on RED beach were there as markers to the aircraft ......
The rings concerned fire safety regulations. ::)
You WC believers have been trying to sell that BS for years.... and it's nothing but BS.
In this photo there are four red rings visible.....( I believe there were actually seven red rings stuck on the windows of the TSBD. ) Perhaps you can verify your contention that they were some sort of weird "fire safety regulation".... by citing that regulation..... And also perhaps you can explain why the red rings disappeared and do not appear in photos taken a couple of days after the ambush murder.
Didn't you used to argue that the red rings were some type of "signal" to LBJ that the assassination was going to happen (as though he couldn't figure that out when the shots rang out seconds later)? I know narrative consistency is not a CTer requirement but just trying to keep track of all the different yarns.
Gary Mack and others have posted newspaper articles that long predated the assassination (by decades) that explained the fire safety purpose of the red rings. The only thing "weird" about this is your refusal to accept the documented explanation.
Why aren't you concerned the photo might be faked.
(https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/userpics/10001/Peter_Lemkin_2.jpg)
The rings concerned fire safety regulations. ::)
Gary Mack and others have posted newspaper articles that long predated the assassination (by decades) that explained the fire safety purpose of the red rings.
Yes, during WWII many cities had regulations about posting red rings on windows to enable firemen to know where to place ladders so the occupants could escape a building that was on fire.... if the building didn't have a fire escape.
Those rings were placed on windows that were at the end of a corridor ....
Oh by the way, Mr Smart Guy.... Was the TSBD equipped with a fire escape?
Why aren't you concerned the photo might be faked.
(https://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/userpics/10001/Peter_Lemkin_2.jpg)
The rings concerned fire safety regulations. ::)
Thank you for posting the colored photo of the TSBD.....
Can yo verify who took this photo ...and when it was taken?
Perhaps you can post an uncropped copy of this photo?
Why aren't you concerned the photo might be faked.
If it's a official DPD photo, then it could be a fake.....
So you do accept that red rings on windows had a fire safety purpose? The TSBD was an old building. Maybe the rings had been there for a long time and no one bothered to remove them. I'm not a historian of Dallas fire safety regulations and neither are you. What we know with certainty is that such rings were placed on the windows of Dallas building for a fire safety purpose. They were there on 11.22.63. There is zero evidence that they were any type of signal and the notion that the conspirators would attempt to convey some type of message via placing red rings in a random building - one among thousands - that JFK passed that day is so outlandish as to defy comprehension.
I was referring to this photograph, which you accepted without blinking an eye: "I just wanted you to know that the photo of Roberson with the umbrella had a real impact".
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article3952975.html#storylink=related_inline (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article3952975.html#storylink=related_inline)
John O'Hare's son says it is Rip Robertson holding the umbrella in Congo. I don't know!
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Another version.
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(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1j4PIpNCtZbphz0kmWxmCckNi3vDlG5He)
— Fire Engineering, 1948
RED CIRCLES TO FACILITATE RESCUE
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The red circle will show the way in and out of Syracuse’s burning buildings.
Fire Chief William J. Connelly has announced that red circles will be painted
shortly on upper-floor windows of factories, warehouses and other business
places.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1j4PIpNCtZbphz0kmWxmCckNi3vDlG5He)
According to press accounts furnished Fire Engineering by James R. Jackson,
Oswego, N. Y., the circle will indicate the window opens into an aisle or passage-
way which will give firemen easy access to fight flames or effect rescues.
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Persons trapped inside a particular building will know that any window bearing
the red circle will be the first place from which they will be rescued.
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The details of painting the red circles on windows, Chief Connelly said, are in
the hands of Lieut. John Dacey of the fire prevention bureau. Each circle will
measure eight or more inches in diameter, depending upon the size of the window.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1j4PIpNCtZbphz0kmWxmCckNi3vDlG5He)
Employers and employes alike, the reports say, have agreed to keep
free of obstructions all aisles leading to red circled windows.
ST. JOHN, N. B., USES WHITE CROSS
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The idea of identifying windows and passageways to facilitate fire department
operations has been employed in New Brunswick for a number of years with
reported success.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1j4PIpNCtZbphz0kmWxmCckNi3vDlG5He)
In 1946, Donald M. Baird. Fredericton, N. B, wrote: “The Saint John, N. B. Fire
Department, with the cooperation of building owners, recently inaugurated
this system (marking windows! as an aid to operations at fires in mercantile
buildings containing large stocks of merchandise. Certain windows on each
floor are selected for aisles between stockpiles. No obstructions are allowed
in these aisles between the window and the interior of the building. A white
cross about two feet high is then painted on the outside wall below the window.
A small cross on one pane of the window serves as a marker for workers on
the inside. Thus the fire department can tell at a glance where to raise their
ladders or operate heavy streams without hindrance due to large stockpiles.”
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1j4PIpNCtZbphz0kmWxmCckNi3vDlG5He)
The Saint John’s idea of installing identification marks below the windows
as well as on the windows has an added advantage of providing identification
tor windows or apertures where and when the window markings may be
obscured due to smoke or missing because the frame or glass was blown out.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article3952975.html#storylink=related_inline (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article3952975.html#storylink=related_inline)
John O'Hare's son says it is Rip Robertson holding the umbrella in Congo. I don't know!
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Another version.
In the photo section of the Book Bay Of pigs by Peter Wyden there is a photo of Rip Robertson.....
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The man with the umbrella could be Rip Robertson.....Someone that is skilled with photos may be able to confirm....
The CIA sent about 120 Cuban exiles to fight communist-backed guerrillas during the political violence that wracked the country now known as the Democratic Republic of the Congo from 1962-67, says Frank R. Villafaña, author of Cold War in the Congo, virtually the only history of the role of Cubans in the conflict. Fidel Castro supplied about 200 soldiers to the other side.
The rival Cuban forces discovered one another’s presence during a CIA bombing raid on guerrilla positions when ground troops and pilots began cursing one another in Spanish. Later they would fight face to face, when CIA-backed Cubans in patrol boats attacked Castro’s troops along Lake Tanganyika’s shores.
“That was the story that got me interested,” said Villafaña. “When I heard it, I thought it was just typical Cuban exaggeration, but it’s all true. I don’t know why the CIA has kept it so secret. All the documents were supposed to be declassified after 30 years, and here we are 50 years and it’s still all secret.”
The secrecy extends beyond official documents to cloud even the eyewitness accounts of some of the Cuban CIA operatives, now all in their late 70s and beyond. Tamayo, the burly man with the machine gun, is amiable as he shares his recollections of the rescue operation . But, asked about his employer, he turns adamant.
“I don’t know nothing about the CIA,” Tamayo insists.
Cuban pilots had been flying missions in the Congo for the CIA since 1962. But the 20 or so ground troops had just arrived in September, specifically to free the American diplomats.
“They didn’t tell us where we were going, or why,” says Angel Benitez, 76, who like the rest of the men had joined the CIA (for a very un-James-Bondish $250 a month) to help fight its ongoing war against Castro. “All they said was, we’d be going thousands and thousands of miles, but we’d still be fighting communism. So we said, sure.”
It was only in the final 30 minutes of three days of flights in military transports with blacked-out windows that the CIA commander, a larger-than-life Texan named Rip Robertson, pulled out a map of the Congo to reveal their destination.
The man holding the umbrella was identified as Rip Robertson by John O'Hare's son. This happened on twitter. I contacted him and asked if he could deny or confirm if he knows that his father & Rip were both in dealey plaza, he didn't answer. He didn't reply, and who can blame him giving away a very juicy secret to some weasel on the internet. He will probably get around to that (answering) some day when he's signed a financial contract. That's my prediction. Maybe a more socially sophisticated person can get in touch with him and noodle the answer out of him. O'Hare's son said the photo was taken in the Congo. Some CIA crap.
I dunno if you read that article I posted ... https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article3952975.html#storylink=related_inline (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article3952975.html#storylink=related_inline)
50 years later ... and look at that final quote “I don’t know nothing about the CIA,” Tamayo insists.
That's what you're up against. These old dudes that did some shizznit for the CIA 50 years ago, still, today, right now, deny they were under CIA control. Still loyal, and serving their master! Giving them complete deniability.
^those are my underlining skills, you may credit me.
These guys are not ever gonna rat on Rip. They wont even rat on the CIA establishment. These men are probably on decent pensions. The guy whose father 'up and died', he hasn't ever been seen again since it got a bit too hot for him. A company man does what he's told to. But O'Hare's son knows the pic of the man holding the umbrella was his dad's boss, Mr Rip Robertson.
(https://i.ibb.co/sqQTkyM/rip1.jpg)
I can't even remember the context of why O'Hare's son posted the pic on twitter. I am currently banned from twitter for speaking about covid. I find his identifying Rip Robertson enough confirmation. That's just my personal satisfaction. I am satisfied someone in the know has spoken about Rip Robertson. And what I mean, in the know, O'Hare's son was once featured with his father at a military training camp. He helped his father train killers. Like the real deal. O'Hares son was 15, from memory, and he would train alongside Cuban rebels firing live ammo. O'Hares camp was so well thought of he was taking on U.S military special forces teams and training them in advanced techniques.
O'Hare and Rip Robertson were both experts in whacking people.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Fz6RwPbz/5-murray-6-jpg-tdid.jpg)
If O'Hare's son comes forward and says: yes, my dad is the man photographed with Rip Robertson in dealey plaza ... Seriously, if a CIA payroll killer was involved in the assassination of JFK, what does that mean? why possibly would be the explanation for those two men being in dealey plaza? with the Ed Lansdale accusations made by Prouty, as well, this is treason!
(https://i.postimg.cc/T2jh99WR/O-hare.jpg)
I am most convinced O'Hare was in dealey plaza. Those pics are from spartacus education
I hope O'Hare's son spills the beans on his dad. So far he hasn't commented on the pictures of the two guys in the plaza. So there's some hope!
The man holding the umbrella was identified as Rip Robertson by John O'Hare's son. This happened on twitter. I contacted him and asked if he could deny or confirm if he knows that his father & Rip were both in dealey plaza, he didn't answer. He didn't reply, and who can blame him giving away a very juicy secret to some weasel on the internet. He will probably get around to that (answering) some day when he's signed a financial contract. That's my prediction. Maybe a more socially sophisticated person can get in touch with him and noodle the answer out of him. O'Hare's son said the photo was taken in the Congo. Some CIA crap.
I dunno if you read that article I posted ... https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article3952975.html#storylink=related_inline (https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article3952975.html#storylink=related_inline)
50 years later ... and look at that final quote “I don’t know nothing about the CIA,” Tamayo insists.
That's what you're up against. These old dudes that did some shizznit for the CIA 50 years ago, still, today, right now, deny they were under CIA control. Still loyal, and serving their master! Giving them complete deniability.
^those are my underlining skills, you may credit me.
These guys are not ever gonna rat on Rip. They wont even rat on the CIA establishment. These men are probably on decent pensions. The guy whose father 'up and died', he hasn't ever been seen again since it got a bit too hot for him. A company man does what he's told to. But O'Hare's son knows the pic of the man holding the umbrella was his dad's boss, Mr Rip Robertson.
(https://i.ibb.co/sqQTkyM/rip1.jpg)
I can't even remember the context of why O'Hare's son posted the pic on twitter. I am currently banned from twitter for speaking about covid. I find his identifying Rip Robertson enough confirmation. That's just my personal satisfaction. I am satisfied someone in the know has spoken about Rip Robertson. And what I mean, in the know, O'Hare's son was once featured with his father at a military training camp. He helped his father train killers. Like the real deal. O'Hares son was 15, from memory, and he would train alongside Cuban rebels firing live ammo. O'Hares camp was so well thought of he was taking on U.S military special forces teams and training them in advanced techniques.
O'Hare and Rip Robertson were both experts in whacking people.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Fz6RwPbz/5-murray-6-jpg-tdid.jpg)
If O'Hare's son comes forward and says: yes, my dad is the man photographed with Rip Robertson in dealey plaza ... Seriously, if a CIA payroll killer was involved in the assassination of JFK, what does that mean? why possibly would be the explanation for those two men being in dealey plaza? with the Ed Lansdale accusations made by Prouty, as well, this is treason!
(https://i.postimg.cc/T2jh99WR/O-hare.jpg)
I am most convinced O'Hare was in dealey plaza. Those pics are from spartacus education
I hope O'Hare's son spills the beans on his dad. So far he hasn't commented on the pictures of the two guys in the plaza. So there's some hope!
Perhaps a link on mass umbrella toting interlopers wearing GOP bands on their right arms could be provided?
I found ONE video of ONE guy [dressed in black and wearing a gas mask] with a black umbrella and a hammer.. smashing windows.
Evidence of his political affiliation was not apparent.
I did find videos of riots. The claim was that extremist radical elements were responsible.
Many rioters black and white.
How governmental sympathies were determined was a mystery to me.
They should have all been arrested, charged, brought up and convicted of felony destruction.
I wouldn't care what side of the political aisle they supported.
I did notice thattheythese are all liberal news networks [figures]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/29/umbrella-man-white-supremacist-minneapolis/
https://www.justsecurity.org/70497/far-right-infiltrators-and-agitators-in-george-floyd-protests-indicators-of-white-supremacists/
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/authorities-suspect-white-supremacists-and-far-left-extremists-are-behind-violence-at-protests/
“One theory is that the assassins wanted Kennedy to know (in his final seconds) exactly why he was being killed,” writes blogger Croft Randle. “The umbrella symbolized Kennedy’s … refusal to provide a covering ‘umbrella’ of air support during the CIA’s failed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. The term had been widely used and the significance of the raised umbrella would have instantly been understood by Kennedy.”
The umbrella plus the red rings on the windows of the TSBD was intended to remind JFK that he had pulled the UMBRELLA OF AIR COVER and the red rings on RED beach were there as markers to the aircraft ......
1 The Signal Man on Elm Street was the thread title given by the poster so I thought that is what he believed.
2..I Never knew about the taboo on umbrellas at the 50th anniversary in Dealey.
However on that day they barricaded that general area and only people with tickets to the occasion were allowed in.
Also, it rained that day so those lucky people got a chilly barrage of moisture.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/22/jfk-50th-anniversary-assassination-live
(https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/pottsmerc.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/7a/57a81e57-61c3-5184-a9b9-b0c6a34abc31/5b7cf435c7254.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C800)
Another fact is all these claims that are made... never with any links or proof---
The fact is white supremacists were arrested at those protests and most of them belonged to The Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Boogaloos which are the same thugs who attacked the Capitol on 1/6. They were using back umbrellas as a symbol.
There was a mist in the morning but it cleared before Kennedy's plane landed.Review the post...the article concerned the 50th anniversary commemoration of the assassination--not the day itself.
And so the spam about a completely different topic ensues.
The man holding the umbrella ....We were discussing umbrellas?
We were discussing umbrellas?
In the CTer "mind" every oddity must have a sinister explanation. Imagine the conspirators telling this umbrella guy that his role is to stand out in the open, near the line of fire, and signal the shooters. So conspicuous that we are still talking about him 60 years later. And, as you correctly point out, a sniper wouldn't need to be prompted on when to fire. See JFK, shoot JFK would have carried the day.And from the LN oddity view every witness who didn't jive with the official version being ignored was an oversight or they were nuts wanting 15 mins of fame, every strange death was simply a coincidence and every single person coming forward with any insight/ information not in line with the WR were crackpots eh.
In the CTer "mind" every oddity must have a sinister explanation. Imagine the conspirators telling this umbrella guy that his role is to stand out in the open, near the line of fire, and signal the shooters. So conspicuous that we are still talking about him 60 years later. And, as you correctly point out, a sniper wouldn't need to be prompted on when to fire. See JFK, shoot JFK would have carried the day.