The Signal Man on Elm Street

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2021, 09:25:57 PM »

“One theory is that the assassins wanted Kennedy to know (in his final seconds) exactly why he was being killed,” writes blogger Croft Randle. “The umbrella symbolized Kennedy’s … refusal to provide a covering ‘umbrella’ of air support during the CIA’s failed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba. The term had been widely used and the significance of the raised umbrella would have instantly been understood by Kennedy.”


The umbrella plus the red rings on the windows of the TSBD was intended to remind JFK that he had  pulled the UMBRELLA OF AIR COVER and the red rings on RED  beach were there as markers to the aircraft ......

Didn't you used to argue that the red rings were some type of "signal" to LBJ that the assassination was going to happen (as though he couldn't figure that out when the shots rang out seconds later)?  I know narrative consistency is not a CTer requirement but just trying to keep track of all the different yarns.

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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2021, 09:28:47 PM »
The rings concerned fire safety regulations. ::)

You WC  believers have been trying to sell that BS  for years....  and it's nothing but BS.

In this photo there are four red rings visible.....( I believe there were actually seven red rings stuck on the windows of the TSBD. ) Perhaps you can verify your contention that they were some sort of weird "fire safety regulation".... by citing that regulation.....  And also perhaps you can explain why the red rings disappeared and do not appear in photos taken a couple of days after the ambush murder.

Gary Mack and others have posted newspaper articles that long predated the assassination (by decades) that explained the fire safety purpose of the red rings.  The only thing "weird" about this is your refusal to accept the documented explanation. 

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2021, 09:54:36 PM »
Didn't you used to argue that the red rings were some type of "signal" to LBJ that the assassination was going to happen (as though he couldn't figure that out when the shots rang out seconds later)?  I know narrative consistency is not a CTer requirement but just trying to keep track of all the different yarns.

Didn't you used to argue that the red rings were some type of "signal" to LBJ that the assassination was going to happen


The answer is Yes and No....  The red rings had a two fold purpose.... To notify JFK that he was being executed for pulling the aircover for the brigade at red beach at BOP.....AND it was also a signal to LBJ that everything was set on "go" and he merely had to give the "thumbs up" so the sniper's would know that LBJ had their backs.

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2021, 11:39:30 PM »
Gary Mack and others have posted newspaper articles that long predated the assassination (by decades) that explained the fire safety purpose of the red rings.  The only thing "weird" about this is your refusal to accept the documented explanation.

Gary Mack and others have posted newspaper articles that long predated the assassination (by decades) that explained the fire safety purpose of the red rings.

Yes,  during WWII many cities had regulations about posting red rings on windows to enable firemen to know where to place ladders so the occupants could escape a building that was on fire.... if the building didn't have a fire escape.

Those rings were placed on windows that were at the end of a corridor .... 

Oh by the way, Mr Smart Guy....  Was the TSBD equipped with a fire escape?

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2021, 07:47:18 PM »
Why aren't you concerned the photo might be faked.



The rings concerned fire safety regulations. ::)

Thank you for posting the colored photo of the TSBD..... 

Can yo verify who took this photo ...and when it was taken?

Perhaps you can post an uncropped copy of this photo?

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« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2021, 11:53:37 PM »
Gary Mack and others have posted newspaper articles that long predated the assassination (by decades) that explained the fire safety purpose of the red rings.

Yes,  during WWII many cities had regulations about posting red rings on windows to enable firemen to know where to place ladders so the occupants could escape a building that was on fire.... if the building didn't have a fire escape.

Those rings were placed on windows that were at the end of a corridor .... 

Oh by the way, Mr Smart Guy....  Was the TSBD equipped with a fire escape?

So you do accept that red rings on windows had a fire safety purpose?  The TSBD was an old building.  Maybe the rings had been there for a long time and no one bothered to remove them.  I'm not a historian of Dallas fire safety regulations and neither are you.  What we know with certainty is that such rings were placed on the windows of Dallas building for a fire safety purpose.  They were there on 11.22.63.  There is zero evidence that they were any type of signal and the notion that the conspirators would attempt to convey some type of message via placing red rings in a random building - one among thousands - that JFK passed that day is so outlandish as to defy comprehension. 

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Re: The Signal Man on Elm Street
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2021, 12:00:05 AM »
Why aren't you concerned the photo might be faked.



The rings concerned fire safety regulations. ::)

Why aren't you concerned the photo might be faked.


If it's a official DPD photo, then it could be a fake.....