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Offline Alan J. Ford

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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2021, 08:10:24 PM »
Fritz arrives at the TSBD
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vrdo0lj6B6c5FRlo0MvX87kQPdd6pi5l/view?usp=sharing

An exemplary example of precision @ 12:58PM...no need for +/- maybe more or less dynamics in play. Thanks for sharing, Mr. Davidson, the most critical factor within any timeline examination is precision or as close to it as possible.

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Offline Alan J. Ford

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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2021, 08:26:48 PM »
That question is tantamount to asking how some people have walked away from a horrible car wreck with 'nary' a scratch while the other crashengers (so-to-speak) are crushed to a pulp.

On the contrary, Mr. Chapman, five arresting officers physically mangling the shirt pockets of the wrongly accused, and later forgetting to remember to account for those actions with pristine bus-transfer "evidence" hours later has nothing to do with a collision/vehicle wreckage. Let's call it what it truly is ---->

Planted "evidence" to frame an innocent party. Planted "evidence" amid a hastily contrived script to put him on the scene at 10th & Patton. Planted "evidence" to suggest he left Dealey Plaza before he really left and by what means. The actual means, not the false-narrative...

The pristine paper bus-transfer was planted "evidence" hours after that intense physical altercation...essentially a major gaffe amid a hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure. The wrongly accused was Framed.

 


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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2021, 09:22:40 PM »
Contrary to the hastily contrived script, here's a timeline of events that is supported with actual evidence and film (courtesy of Mr. Mantesana's capturing of the wrongly accused standing outside with his supervisor Bill Shelley) ---->

12:30PM Shots fired amid a cowardly ambush of a duly elected representative of the people.

12:31 -12:34 numbing shock amid a chaotic scene unfolds in Dealey Plaza

Prior to this, the wrongly accused--after watching Mr. Jarman & Mr. Norman reenter the TSBD in the rear of the building to head up to their vantage point on the 5th floor--crosses the 1st floor from the back to the front doors. He steps out into the crisp autumn air. The unthinkable unfolds...

12:34PM: According to Mr. Jarman's House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) testimony, Mr. Lovelady shares the following with him after he, Mr. Norman and Mr. Williams (Bonnie Ray) complete their descent down from the 5th floor ---->

James Jarman told the HSCA that Billy Lovelady told him that Oswald was stopped by an officer at the front entrance and vouched for by Mr. Truly. -- *Source: Mr. Murphy (Ace card researcher Sean)

So at 12:34PM the wrongly accused is still in Dealey Plaza. Over the next 4-5 minutes, the wrongly accused--standing now by the 1st floor storage room where he was spotted by employees returning into the building-- comes to the aid of Inspector Sawyer ---->

Mr. SAWYER: "We run into this man. A man who I believed worked in the building. The elevator was just to the right of the main entrance, and we went to the top floor, which was pointed out to me by this man as being the floor that we were talking about.

After coming to Inspector Sawyer's aid, the wrongly accused--upon returning to the 1st floor--came to the aid of a then rookie reporter, Pierce Allman ---->

'I thought, "I need to get to a phone and call." So I ran down the sidewalk and up the steps and into the doorway of the depository building.'

As soon as he got into the building, he realized that he needed help finding a phone in the building so he could file the report.

'There was a guy standing in the doorway, and I said, "Where's the phone?" And he said, "In there!" And I said, "Thank you," he told CBS.


Sidebar: Oswald described the reporter, Pierce Allman, to police. By now it is +/- 12:41PM. After coming to the aid of Mr. Allman and being excused by Mr. Truly--per James Jarman's HSCA testimony--the wrongly accused now steps back outside into the crisp Autumn air. This fits precisely with the interrogators recording that he told them he stood outside with his supervisor Bill Shelley for, quote, 5-10 minutes, unquote...at which time he understood from their conversation out there that--given the confusion within the building (his words, not mine) that there would be no more work that day.

5-10 minutes places the timeline at 12:46PM or 12:52PM--+/- given we are adding 5 or 10 minutes to his own words. Either way, the wrongly accused is nowhere near 10th & Patton, nor guilty of firing shots at President Kennedy either. The mystery that remains is how? did the wrongly accused actually leave Dealey Plaza and precisely when? and for what? reason(s)...

Brief recap: No other TSBD employee's post-assassination whereabouts account for the male employee who comes to Inspector Sawyer's aid on the first floor near the small storage room & passenger elevator but one (the wrongly accused).

The wrongly accused then comes to the aid of Mr. Allman, who is looking for a phone. The wrongly accused actually shares this with his interrogators. He then steps back out into the crisp Autumn air, where he spends, quote, 5-10 minutes with Bill Shelley. He actually shares this with his interrogators as well. The cincher is the film recorded by private citizen Charles Ernest Mentesana, who actually captures the wrongly accused standing outside with his supervisor. 







 

« Last Edit: May 07, 2021, 09:26:58 PM by Alan J. Ford »

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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2021, 09:34:38 PM »
The wrongly accused was Framed. The wrongly-accused did Not shoot anybody. Anybody.

Best wishes for all to remain well, safe & healthy amid the ongoing pandemic challenges we are all facing. Back next week G-d willing to share some footage of the wrongly accused so we may compare his mannerisms, stance, etc to the gentleman wearing the clothes he was later apprehended in at the Texas Theatre.

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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2021, 12:21:47 AM »
On the contrary, Mr. Chapman, five arresting officers physically mangling the shirt pockets of the wrongly accused, and later forgetting to remember to account for those actions with pristine bus-transfer "evidence" hours later has nothing to do with a collision/vehicle wreckage. Let's call it what it truly is ---->

Planted "evidence" to frame an innocent party. Planted "evidence" amid a hastily contrived script to put him on the scene at 10th & Patton. Planted "evidence" to suggest he left Dealey Plaza before he really left and by what means. The actual means, not the false-narrative...

The pristine paper bus-transfer was planted "evidence" hours after that intense physical altercation...essentially a major gaffe amid a hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure. The wrongly accused was Framed.

'The wrongly accused was Framed'
The only thing that 'Framed' the little prick was the sn window Frame frame.

'five arresting officers physically mangling the shirt pockets'
HAHAHAHA. Now there's a classic example of CT over-exaggeration! You deserve an Emmy for that little gem: You're making it sound that your Gang of Five coppers were way, way more interested in beating up on a shirt pocket, instead of subduing the nobody who declared he wasn't resisting arrest (while in the process of resisting arrest).

'Let's call it what it truly is'---->
Okay:---->its your pet theory. In which nobody gets lucky enough to escape a horrible car crash-cum-bus transfer/shirt-pocket assault and remain bloodlessly pristine... or tickety-boo, for that matter.


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NEWS FLASH
NOV 22, 1963
CRISP AUTUMN DAY*
DALLAS, TEXAS
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DPD DISPATCH:

APB BULLETIN: ATTENTION ALL CARS
BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR A PRISTINE BUS TRANSFER
THAT WE PLOTTERS FORGOT TO ROUGH UP


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EDIT ;D
BONUS
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2021, 12:43:55 AM »
The wrongly accused was Framed. The wrongly-accused did Not shoot anybody. Anybody.

Best wishes for all to remain well, safe & healthy amid the ongoing pandemic challenges we are all facing. Back next week G-d willing to share some footage of the wrongly accused so we may compare his mannerisms, stance, etc to the gentleman wearing the clothes he was later apprehended in at the Texas Theatre.

Are those the ones taken of said 'gentleman' while wearing make-up and lying very still in a box of some sort? Hey, anybody can look-the-gentleman while wearing a suit, makeup and taking a dirt nap.
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« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2021, 08:42:50 PM »
'The wrongly accused was Framed'
The only thing that 'Framed' the little prick was the sn window Frame frame.

*My response: You are right about where the SN-Framing took place, but you have the wrong party ---->

Mr. BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor?
Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.


Why do you suppose Roy Truly was in the Framing window before anyone else, Mr. Chapman? 

'five arresting officers physically mangling the shirt pockets'
HAHAHAHA. Now there's a classic example of CT over-exaggeration! You deserve an Emmy for that little gem: You're making it sound that your Gang of Five coppers were way, way more interested in beating up on a shirt pocket, instead of subduing the nobody who declared he wasn't resisting arrest (while in the process of resisting arrest).

*My response: An Emmy?

 c'mon, Mr. Chapman, whose really exaggerating here?

Go ahead take a few honest minutes and actually study the pictures you your own self shared here on this thread, where it's clearly evident the wrongly accused's tattered shirt is missing buttons following that intense physical altercation with not one, not two, but five adrenaline-pumped officers, grabbing him from the left, the right, and from behind and at least two from the front (all their words not mine) yet hours after that experience a pristine bus-transfer is "found" in his pocket...where I appreciate the hearty laugh an innocent man was framed with this hastily contrived stench of horse manure scripted "evidence"...

It's okay to admit honestly that amid their hastily contrived script to frame an innocent party small but important details were overlooked. To suggest otherwise is rather telling.

'Let's call it what it truly is'---->
Okay:---->its your pet theory. In which nobody gets lucky enough to escape a horrible car crash-cum-bus transfer/shirt-pocket assault and remain bloodlessly pristine... or tickety-boo, for that matter.

*My response: No, on the contrary, not a pet-theory at all, just some good old-fashioned common sense that recognizes the stench of horse manure amid a hastily contrived script to frame the wrongly accused. A laminated modern day business card--let alone a flimsy piece of paper bus-transfer--would have exhibited tearing, crinkling and or at the very least folding near at least one of the corners (1/4) given that high induced adrenaline pumped physical altercation.

It's okay to admit a frame up when it's clearly evident it presents itself due to the small yet important details being overlooked. Oops! It's way past time to admit the wrongly accused was Framed.






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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2021, 05:16:52 PM »
The CTer "mind" and use of "logic" are curious things to behold.  Here we learn that because a bus transfer found in Oswald's possession is allegedly pristine that means it must have been planted.  A dubious subjective claim.  And we are left to ponder why the conspirators need to put Oswald on a random bus that goes nowhere and advances the plot not an iota at considerable risk.  How do they know, for example, which bus in the vicinity at the right moment?   How do they convince a random witness on that bus to confirm that Oswald was on it?  How do they convince the bus driver to confirm that he gave the transfer to a man?  How do they convince any other passengers to avoid blowing up this fake story?  Don't they have enough problems killing the President, and hiding the identity of the real assassin without adding a random bus load of random passengers into the plot?   What is the purpose of this entire charade?  We are left only to ponder. 

The only explanation ever proffered is that the bus story is necessary to confirm that Oswald was wearing the arrest shirt during the assassination because fibers from that shirt are consistent with those found on the rifle.  But that makes little sense.  There is no real need to do that and, as CTers often argue themselves, the fiber evidence is not that compelling on this point.  The FBI confirms only that the fibers are consistent with Oswald's shirt.  Being found on the rifle also doesn't preclude the fibers from the shirt from getting on the rifle on some occasion prior to 11.22.  Not crucial given the other evidence that link him to the rifle.  There is no way that any conspirator goes through this risky charade simply to put Oswald on the bus to nowhere.  It is laughable when viewed through the narrative of a fake event supported only by the subjective assessment that the bus transfer should not be "pristine."

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