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Offline Alan J. Ford

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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2021, 07:14:22 PM »
The fire truck is clearly shown in the footage. As far as I'm aware the truck arrived shortly after 1:00 PM.
There's no way to support the notion Oswald and Shelley were out front chatting until this time.

Spot on with the arrival time, Mr. O'meara, give or take just a few minutes to be fair. I'm sure the exemplary research of Mr. Davidson (Chris) could make a credible case one way or the other. Where I disagree respectfully with you is there is credible evidence to support the wrongly accused and Bill Shelley being together at this time in this location ---->

Don't have my notes handy at the moment, but lest we forget the wrongly accused told his interrogators, *paraphrasing here based on memory from page 619 in the Warren Report... Mr. Bookhout (James, special agent w/the FBI) writes...

* "...he said he and Bill Shelley stood together outside for 5-10 minutes..."

We know from much closer examination that Bill Shelley akin to his work crew members shared a penchant for lying about their actual whereabouts and actions that afternoon. There's a reason for that. A hastily contrived script reared its deceptive head and any absolute genuine truth to the contrary of that "truth" was quickly avoided.

The wrongly accused wouldn't have used just any name to secure an alibi. He used the name of the individual he "stood outside for 5-10 minutes" with. It's a no brainer that Bill Shelley would lie about that. In fact, they all denied seeing the wrongly accused any time after his hasty escape (please excuse the eye-roll) because to do otherwise would mean the phantom encounter at 10th & Patton was/is the horse manure it is.

Again, if anyone is in contact with the widow of the wrongly accused (Marina Oswald-Porter) ask her in an objective manner if she recognizes either man in Mr. Mantesana's film to avoid leading her to a conclusion.

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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2021, 07:46:59 PM »
Brief Recap:

The gentlemen in the right hand bottom corner of Mr. Mentesana's film are both dressed akin to the manner of the wrongly accused and his immediate supervisor. They are outside matching the interrogation statements of the wrongly accused.

The supervisor in question is the same stature as the 2nd figure. His hair style is the same. His specific name (and location) comes up as the wrongly accused is being interrogated to establish his airtight alibi. The first figure is wearing the same clothing as the wrongly accused upon his apprehension at the Texas Theatre (and the same ragged shirt much later at his midnight press-conference).

A worthy investment of time would be to compare the head, neck, animated movements etc of the wrongly accused passing out leaflets in New Orleans w/the man in Dealey Plaza. Freezing the Mentesana frame of his neckline and comparing it with the photo image of the wrongly accused walking pass Mr. Lovelady at the DPD headquarters may yield a similar hair and/or neckline as well.

One thing we all know for sure in this case is that a hastily contrived script forced many parties to lie (even Mr. Lovelady --in spite of the wrongly accused--walking right past him at DPD headquarters said he never saw him ever again that day). ---->

Mr. BALL - Did you ever see him again that day?
Mr. LOVELADY - No.


Why did Bill Shelley and his 6th floor crewmembers outright lie about their whereabouts and actions that afternoon? Only one reason: The absolute-truth--void of a hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure--would have exonerated the wrongly accused. Be safe everyone amid the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic challenges we are facing.

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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2021, 09:29:57 PM »
Certainly appreciate your excellent rendition, Mr. Reeves, thank you.

Conjures up images of the apprehension of the wrongly accused at the Texas Theatre (albeit after that intense physical struggle with DPD his reddish brown shirt becomes ripped, torn, tattered, leaving it looking rather ragged). But somehow like magic (as if the magic bullet wasn't already enough magic in this frame up) a bus transfer was found in his tattered shirt in *pristine condition well after that intense physical struggle with the DPD at the Texas Theatre.

*Nary a tear, bend or wrinkle upon that planted "evidence".

On a public computer so will have to wait until next time to post that pristine planted bus-transfer here; and, if it's still in my Commission Exhibit notes will also post his tattered grey coloured pants following that intense physical struggle w/DPD.

Nary a tear, bend or wrinkle upon that planted "evidence"
Show us exactly where Oswald was grabbed in a manner that would have necessarily torn, bent, or wrinkled the transfer.

Instead of conjuring up images here are some actual images taken after Oswald had informed us that the movie was over ('that's it, it's all over now) and that he wasn't resisting arrest as he... resisted arrest.

Show us where his reddish brown shirt has become 'ripped, torn, tattered, leaving it looking rather ragged'.
Seems your boy is the one looking rather ragged.


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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2021, 08:32:50 PM »
Good afternoon gentlemen,

First things first, before responding to Mr. Chapman's question. Here let's take an honest look & appraisal of that pristine "evidence" planted upon the wrongly accused hours after he was involved in an intense physical altercation with more than a few officers (2nd image in the row) ---->

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lee-harvey-oswald-original-dallas-tx-1795129843

Please take a good look at the pristine condition...and think about that condition as you read the reality of that very intense physical altercation between the wrongly accused and the adrenaline pumped arresting officers in the following post...
« Last Edit: May 03, 2021, 08:34:49 PM by Alan J. Ford »

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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2021, 08:48:21 PM »
Nary a tear, bend or wrinkle upon that planted "evidence"
Show us exactly where Oswald was grabbed in a manner that would have necessarily torn, bent, or wrinkled the transfer.

Instead of conjuring up images here are some actual images taken after Oswald had informed us that the movie was over ('that's it, it's all over now) and that he wasn't resisting arrest as he... resisted arrest.

Show us where his reddish brown shirt has become 'ripped, torn, tattered, leaving it looking rather ragged'.
Seems your boy is the one looking rather ragged.


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The wrongly accused was apprehended in the following manner, according to one of the five arresting officers on the scene involved in that intense physical altercation (underlined for emphasis) ---->

In most of the accounts, Oswald strikes MacDonald in the face at this point in time; the scene inside the aisle quickly turned into a melee, with multiple officers involved in subduing Oswald. Hill got into the same row as Oswald and grabbed his left arm, Officer MacDonald held him from the right, and CT Walker and an officer Hawkins held him from the front, forcing him into his seat.

*source: jfkwitnesses.omeka.net

A rather intense physical altercation, yet the bus-transfer "evidence" planted upon the wrongly accused hours after this high volume adrenaline altercation is in pristine condition, nary a tear, bend or wrinkle upon it. Like so much of the "evidence" in this case manufactured to frame the wrongly accused this "evidence" we can easily include in the hastily contrived script "evidence" bin, because it also forgot the small but important details.

Now, Mr. Chapman, explain to the rest of us reading along here just how the bus-transfer is void of normal wear and tearing, bending, ripping and wrinkling? 







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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2021, 08:53:46 PM »
While we await Mr. Chapman's reply, just wanted to thank top shelf researcher Mr. Davidson (Chris) once again for sharing his timely video, which clarifies the arrival time of Captain Fritz to the TSBD (talk about precision!) When it comes to timeline folks I would highly recommend anyone to consult with Mr. Davidson or at the very least lean upon his exemplary research where timelines are concerned.

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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2021, 09:10:01 PM »
Just a brief note here to remind myself upon next visit to share a snippet of Mr. Jarman (James "Junior's") House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) testimony, specifically the fact that the wrongly accused was allowed to exit the building as per Mr. Lovelady's conversation w/Mr. Jarman on that fateful afternoon...

this is important because--once again--we have an individual in the same clothing w/more than a striking resemblance to the wrongly accused still in Dealey Plaza long after his scripted hasty escape, standing with an individual with a strong resemblance to the wrongly-accused's supervisor dressed in the same manner as Mr. Shelley standing there w/him.

Mr. Davidson, if you should happen along sir, any chance you may have a hint of a timeline between the timing of Mr. Jarman and Mr. Lovelady's conversation detailing "Mr. Trudy" allowing the wrongly accused to exit the building?

On my own I've got a ballpark figure relative to that timing sequence after reading Mr. Jarman's testimony, particularly how long he and the other remnants of the trio on the 5th floor remained upstairs before eventually coming all the way down.  Just wanted to be fair here, while also establishing a timeline that demonstrates that the wrongly-accused did not make a hasty escape per the Script, nor was he anywhere near 10th & Patton either.

All for now folks (back later this week, G-d willing) best to everyone to remain well, safe & healthy amid the ongoing pandemic challenges we are all facing. The wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.