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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4392 on: November 21, 2021, 11:29:53 PM »
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It's good to see Democrats hitting the airwaves and finally stating what I've been saying all along. Criminal Donald, the GOP, and the right wing media are purposely pushing harmful disinformation about the vaccines so their followers won't get vaccinated. They are doing it to suppress the economy so they can sabotage President Biden. And as a result, they are killing off their own supporters. It's about time Dems are speaking out about this pro death GOP cult.

‘Blood on his hands’: Fox News guest accuses Trump of 'ghoulish' plot to win the midterms

Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA) told Fox News on Sunday that former President Donald Trump is guilty of a "ghoulish" attempt to undermine the economy by downplaying the need for Covid-19 vaccinations.

"Next year, we may see a larger Democratic majority as people understand that what Donald Trump is doing today -- and the man has blood on his hands -- is trying to suppress our economy by convincing Americans not to get vaccinated," Sherman explained to host Mike Emanuel. "It's part of a ghoulish political strategy to depress the economy and depress Democratic vote and I don't think it will work."

For his part, Emanuel ignored the theory and moved on to a question about inflation.

Although Trump has been vaccinated for Covid-19, he is on record suggesting that the vaccines cannot be trusted by people who believe the 2020 election was stolen.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4393 on: November 22, 2021, 11:09:10 PM »
This is what right wing extremist brainwashing does to people.         

JFK-obsessed QAnon cultists set off alarms with ominous chatter: 'We have to experience physical death'



An offshoot branch of the QAnon conspiracy cult appears headed in a new and potentially deadly direction.

Online conspiracist Michael Brian Protzman drew his followers, who call him Negative48, to Dallas last month to await the return of John F. Kennedy and his son John F. Kennedy Jr., but the tone of his comments turned morbid over the weekend in a video chat participants openly discussed their own deaths as part of a journey toward some unknowable truth, reported Vice.

"Ultimately," said one participant, "we have to experience that physical death ... let go ... come out on the other side."

An administrator for Protzman's Telegram channel posted an ominous screenshot hours later that showed the destination on a navigation app as Waco, Texas, where a monthslong standoff between law enforcement and the Branch Davidian religious sect ended in the fiery deaths of 76 people, including 25 children.

"The moment when the leaders of a cultic group start talking about the need for physical death to reach utopia," tweeted Mike Rothschild, the author of The Storm Is Upon Us, a book about QAnon, "is the moment to get the authorities involved."


One woman whose sister left her husband and three children behind to join Protzman's group in Texas is increasingly concerned about her involvement and doubts she'll see her alive again.

"She left her children for this and doesn't even care," Katy Garner told Vice. "She is missing birthdays and holidays for this. She truly believes this is all real and we are the crazy ones for trying to get her to come home. But she won't. I don't believe she will ever come back from this. We are in mourning."

Garner's sister has given about $200,000 to Protzman's group, cut off all communication with her family and has been taking a hydrogen peroxide solution to protect against COVID-19, and experts in cults and extremist groups share her alarm about what may be coming next for his followers.

"These are basically the exact same spiritual/religious teachings that the guy in California was getting into just before he brutally murdered his two young children," tweeted Caroline Orr Bueno, a behavioral scientist who studies social media manipulation and far-right extremism.

https://www.rawstory.com/michael-brian-protzman-2655776085/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4394 on: November 22, 2021, 11:13:16 PM »
Bring on the indictments! This week would be perfect to kick off the holiday season.

Michael Cohen implicates Ivanka and Don Jr. in crimes while predicting more indictments are coming

Former Trump "fixer" Michael Cohen appeared on CNN Monday to predict that more indictments were coming for members of former President Donald Trump's inner circle -- and he even implicated Trump's adult children in criminal activities.

During an interview with host Alisyn Camerota, Cohen was asked how it felt being the only person prosecuted for making illegal hush money payments during the 2016 presidential election, despite the fact that prosecutors claimed in filings that Trump directly signed off on making them.

"I do want to make this promise to you and all of your viewers: I may have been prosecuted and right now am the only one, but I will not be the only one at the end of the day," he said.

"For this crime?" Camerota asked.

"For this crime and for others," Cohen replied.

Camerota then asked Cohen who else would be indicted, and he said he wanted to leave that decision up to prosecutors.

However, this didn't stop him from implicating members of the Trump family.

"There were quite a few people who were involved," he said. "Eric Trump was involved. Obviously Allen Weisselberg, who's already under indictment. Don Jr., Ivanka -- there were a slew of people who were involved in this."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4395 on: November 23, 2021, 03:57:44 AM »
So the so called "billionaire" needs the RNC to pay his legal bills for him. Why can't the "billionaire" pay for his own legal fees?

Trump gets RNC to pay legal bills as New York prosecutors continue criminal probe

Former President Donald Trump is facing criminal probes from prosecutors in New York, but he's getting help paying his legal bills from the Republican National Committee.

The Washington Post reports that the RNC "is paying some personal legal bills for former president Donald Trump, spending party funds to pay a lawyer representing Trump in investigations into his financial practices in New York."

Specifically, the RNC made payments totaling more than $120,000 just last month to the law firm of Ronald Fischetti, whom Trump hired in April.

In a statement given to the Post, the RNC defended its decision to foot the bill for Trump's legal expenses.

"As a leader of our party, defending President Trump and his record of achievement is critical to the GOP," the committee said. "It is entirely appropriate for the RNC to continue assisting in fighting back against the Democrats' never ending witch hunt and attacks on him."

Trump's businesses are facing scrutiny from both New York Attorney General Letitia James and Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-legal-bills-rnc/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4396 on: November 23, 2021, 02:03:05 PM »
Just more harassment, abuse, and violent acts from these MAGA Trump supporters. Click the link to watch the video.

Trump supporter smacks phone out of woman's hand -- and is immediately hauled off by airport police
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4397 on: November 23, 2021, 02:21:47 PM »
More criminal election fraud from Trump's stooges trying to steal Georgia. More evidence keeps on coming out. Meadows needs to be locked up along with the rest of them. 

Mark Meadows used his private Gmail account to pressure Georgia officials to undo Trump’s loss



ABC News chief Washington correspondent Jonathan Karl on Tuesday explained why the Gmail account of Donald Trump's former chief of staff Mark Meadows may provide critical evidence for the House select committee to investigate the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

During an appearance on CNN, Karl explained his interest in Meadows to anchor John Berman, saying part of the backstory behind Trump's notorious phone call pressuring Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to "find 11,780 votes."

Meadows reportedly voiced frustration when he finally connected on the phone to a Raffensperger deputy.

"We've been trying to reach out to you 18 different times, and you've ignored our inquiries," Meadows reportedly complained.

Initially, Raffensperger's office was mystified, but then they figured out what had been going on.

"Raffensperger himself had been receiving text messages from a Gmail account, Mark Meadows' Gmail account, that he thought was certainly a prank," Karl said. "You know, his number had been put out on the internet, he'd been getting all kinds of prank calls, so Mark Meadows was reaching out to a top official in Georgia on a private Gmail account."

"What else was going on where his private Gmail account?" he wondered. "He was at the intersection of everything."

"What else was Mark Meadows up to?" Karl asked.

"Will we ever find out?" Berman asked. "He will fight this appearance as long as he possibly can, citing executive privilege."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4398 on: November 23, 2021, 11:29:42 PM »
Donald Trump called these neo nazi white supremacists "very fine people".

Charlottesville defendants found liable for civil conspiracy and ordered to pay millions in damages



Returning a verdict against dozens of white supremacist leaders and organizations who organized Unite the Right, a Virginia jury has awarded more than $25 million in damages to nine plaintiffs who were injured in the violence during the chaotic rally that ended with a car attack by James Fields.

The defendants were found liable in four of six counts, including a Virginia state conspiracy claim that they subjected the plaintiffs to racial, religious or ethnic harassment or violence. But the mixed-race jury deadlocked on a major claim in the civil case against the organizers, whether they engaged in a conspiracy to commit racially motivated violence.

The plaintiffs presented evidence over the course of the four-week trial showing that the defendants meticulously planned the Unite the Right rally on the digital chat platform Discord. While the ostensible reason for the rally was to support two Confederate monuments slated for removal in Charlottesville, the organizers' private communications revealed that their true inspiration was a violent rally four months earlier in Berkeley, Calif. and that they hoped to bait left-wing opponents into the streets, and as primary organizer Jason Kessler put it, "fight this spombleprofglidnoctobuns out."

The evidence showed that Kessler quickly reached out to Matthew Heimbach, an avowed fascist and antisemite who led the Traditionalist Worker Party and had already organized a coalition of "hard right" white supremacist groups that included League of the South, the National Socialist Movement and Vanguard America. All the organizations sent members to Charlottesville, and the leader of Vanguard America wound up providing a shield to Fields before he drove his car into counter-protesters.

After securing a commitment from Spencer — then the most famous figure in the alt-right movement that emerged on the coattails of Donald Trump's 2016 election — for the headlining speaker slot, Kessler wrote in a phone text: "We are raising an army, my liege, for free speech but the cracking of skulls, if it comes to it." The plaintiffs also presented evidence that Elliot Kline, both a lieutenant to Spencer and a leader of Identity Evropa, organized Unite the Right alongside Kessler. Kline's former girlfriend, Samantha Froelich, testified that he was obsessed with exterminating Jews, saying he would "gas the kikes forever." Robert "Azzmador" Ray, a contributing writer for the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, mentioned in a Discord chat in the month prior to Unite the Right that had "just got done with an hourlong chat with some of the organizers and I feel better about the thing. The plan is the same: Gas the kikes." After macing counter-protesters at the Aug. 11 torch march, Ray reported to his fellow neo-Nazis: "I personally literally gassed half a dozen kikes."

Counsel for the defendants argued that Fields car attack was not reasonably foreseeable or intended by the defendants, who anticipated only pushing and shoving, or, at most, fist fights, but the jury evidently didn't buy it. The defendants all testified that they did not know Fields and had not seen him prior to his appearance at the Aug. 12, 2017 rally.

Plaintiff Natalie Romero was injured in Fields' car attack, which left her with a fractured skull, a cleft lip, persistent headaches and trouble maintaining balance. Romero and co-plaintiff Devin Willis were among a small group of University of Virginia students who linked arms around a statue of Thomas Jefferson during a torch march in which white nationalists made monkey noises at them and threw lit torches at their feet while macing, punching and kicking others. All the plaintiffs, who include a pastor, a landscaper, a paralegal who recently passed the bar exam, testified that they have been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder as a result of physical injuries or emotional distress.

As she and a dozen or so counter-protesters linked arms around statue, Romero described the sound of the approaching torch marchers as "almost like thunder, like the earth was growling." She recalled that they chanted "Blood and soil" and "White power."

"There's another that I hate repeating," Romero testified. "I like, hear it in my nightmares. If my phone buzzes, I hear the same cadence, the 'You will not replace us.' That one is just so terrifying to hear the whole time."

https://www.rawstory.com/charlottesville-trial-verdict/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4399 on: November 23, 2021, 11:34:46 PM »
Somehow the Guy Who Tried to Steal Arizona for Trump Is Now Broke
Doug Logan, the CEO of Cyber Ninjas, says he’s $2 milllion in debt.


Everyone thought the Cyber Ninjas were in it for the money.

The Republican-controlled Arizona Senate picked the Florida-based company to run the sham recount of votes in Maricopa County earlier this year, despite their having zero experience running election audits.

The company’s efforts were so amateurish that even the Republican-led Maricopa Board of Supervisors labeled them a bunch of “grifters and con artists.”

But it turns out that even though a variety of conspiracy-loving groups raised almost $6 million to fund the audit, that money hasn’t made its way to the Cyber Ninjas.

This week the company’s CEO Doug Logan said that rather than making him rich, the sham Maricopa County recount left him $2 million in debt.

That’s almost one dollar of debt for every one of the 2.1 million ballots that the Cyber Ninjas recounted during the bogus audit that was conducted over the space of five months earlier this year.

Logan made the claim to Nick Moseder, a long-time election truther who has been spreading disinformation about vote-rigging and other baseless election conspiracies for months on his social media channels, including a show he hosted on YouTube before he was banned from the platform.

Moseder, on his Telegram channel, recounted a conversation he had recently with Logan, claiming that the Cyber Ninjas CEO has been left in deep financial trouble as a result of the Arizona recount.

“While many people got VERY RICH off of the AZ audit, Doug Logan is over 2 million dollars in debt, with no other means of income,” Moseder wrote. “I believe he was anticipating more audits to make up for his losses and kept being reassured, ‘don’t worry about the money, America has your back.’”

Moseder also revealed that Logan’s wife gave birth to the couple’s 12th child recently.

“I personally think it’s a tragedy that Doug Logan sacrificed months with his pregnant wife and 11 kids (now 12) to put his business and reputation on the line,” Moseder wrote. “All of that work, risk, and sacrifice to have come out the other side being called a traitor, and to be 2.1 million dollars in debt, with a business whose reputation will forever be branded ‘right-wing conspiracy company.’”

The news of Logan’s claimed financial ruin will come as a surprise to many, given that back in July, Logan himself issued a press release listing the donors who collectively have coughed up $5.7 million to fund the charade.

Recently released Senate account records show that the recount cost $9 million before the cost of  Cyber Ninjas’ involvement is taken into account.

From the beginning, Logan and his company were widely ridiculed and mocked for indulging conspiracy theories and for the shambolic way the recount was conducted.

At the same time, however, Trump supporters were willing to donate large amounts of cash to fund what they believed was a process that would somehow overturn the 2020 election results—though that was never legally possible.

In the end, the Cyber Ninjas report found that President Joe Biden won Maricopa county by more votes than the official count said—and it wasn’t long before Cyber Ninjas and Logan were the ones being attacked with the CEO claiming he was inundated with messages from Trump supporters blasting him for “not doing enough” to overturn the election.

The audit was funded initially by $150,000 from the Arizona Senate, which also covered the costs of renting the venue for the recount, the Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix, and the security required to protect the ballots around the clock.

But the vast majority of the funding came from right-wing figures who had embraced the Big Lie and conspiracy theories about how the election was stolen.

People like MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, Overstock.com founder Patrick Byrne, and pro-Trump lawyer Lin Wood were all involved, either giving money towards the recount or helping get members of the public to donate to the fundraising effort.

Logan’s revelation that he has been left in millions of dollars worth of debt will likely raise questions about where all that money has gone.

But it seems that some people aren’t done donating money to this cause. Moseder reported that many people had contacted him about where they could donate money to help Logan.

Logan reportedly told Moseder that people should donate to the fundraising campaign established by Christina Bobb, the One America News reporter who was given unfettered access to the recount when reporters from other outlets were barred.

“Christina Bobb’s fund would be the best one to use since the other organizations have mostly moved on to other things, or simply have not been willing to be transparent,” Logan told Moseder.

Logan did not respond to VICE News’ request for comment on his financial situation but an automatic email response said he was currently “out of the office celebrating the birth of my latest daughter.”

Logan’s personal financial situation has also been in the news lately. Last week the Sarasota Herald-Tribune reported that on Jan 25, Logan cleared a 30-year mortgage on his $455,000 house, less than four years after taking out the loan. The report also highlighted that this was the same date that his company’s $100,000 emergency pandemic relief loan was forgiven by the government.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3vdjk/cyber-ninja-ceo-doug-logan-in-debt