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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4340 on: November 19, 2021, 12:35:05 AM »
Criminal Donald gets more toxic by the day and even amongst his own radical right wing base. Last year 27% of Republicans said they didn't want Trump to be their candidate. Fast forward to a year later and it's soared up to 40% that don't want him. But the number that stands out is 71% of Americans can't stand him. Guess we won't be hearing the ridiculous Trump 2024 chants anymore. 

Americans are united in belief Trump shouldn't run again — but GOPers want him anyway: report

Donald Trump is putting the GOP in a bind as he continues to explore mounting a political comeback in 2024.

"A Marquette Law School Poll survey of adults nationwide finds a majority of Republicans wanting former President Donald Trump to run for president in 2024, although a majority of all adults in the survey say they do not want him to run. Among all respondents, 28% would like to see Trump make another run for the presidency, while 71% do not want him to run again," the school announced on Thursday.

While Trump remains toxic with voters overall, he still maintains a tight grasp on the Republican Party, with 60% of Republicans wanting to see him run again.

The poll also showed that 68% of Independents have an unfavorable opinion of Trump.

https://www.marquette.edu/news-center/2021/new-marquette-law-poll-finds-majority-of-republicans-favor-a-trump-run-for-president-in-2024.php

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4341 on: November 19, 2021, 03:46:27 AM »
Rudy Giuliani’s star voter fraud witness in Michigan may not have even voted
https://www.rawstory.com/voter-fraud-witness-hasnt-voted/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4342 on: November 20, 2021, 12:26:17 AM »
Tide is turning against Trump as GOP heavyweights increasingly call him out



According to CNN's political analyst Frida Ghitis, recent comments by a pair of conservative heavyweights about moving beyond Donald Trump may be just the beginning of a movement to leave the former president in the past because he has too much baggage to be re-electable in 2024.

Of particular note are comments made this week by Rupert Murdoch -- whose Fox News gave Trump a major boost that led to victory in 2016 -- only to have a falling out in 2020 when Trump lost his re-election bid.

Writing "It is noteworthy that in the past few days we have heard from two major figures in the conservative camp telling Trump that he should stop whining about the election he lost and let the Republican Party focus on real issues, instead of his self-serving fantasies," Ghitis quotes Murdoch complaining about who should lead the party saying, "It is crucial that conservatives play an active, forceful role in that debate, but that will not happen if President Trump stays focused on the past."

Add that to former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie hitting every cable show to promote his book "Republican Rescue: Saving the Party from Truth Deniers, Conspiracy Theorists, and the Dangerous Policies of Joe Biden" that seems as much a jab at Trump as it does President Joe Biden, and the analyst suggests Trump's career as a viable candidate may be waning even as he leads in the polls among Republicans.

"Murdoch and Christie are not the first Republicans who have stood up to the former president -- but their rebukes of Trump are markedly different, "she wrote before suggesting, but in the long run, they might set off a wave.

Writing, "it is remarkable that they have done the calculus and decided they can benefit from speaking out against the former president, even after other Republicans have been badly hurt by doing the same thing," she then added, "I think their calculation makes sense."

Explaining that Republicans may be "doomed" if they stick with Trump, she stated that --when the 2024 election comes around -- voters will once again be put in a position of deciding if they want to vote for the man who created so much chaos for four years.

"Biden may look uninspiring now, but the former president, who had the most consistently poor approval ratings of any president in the modern era, remains highly unpopular and controversial," she wrote before adding another concern for Republicans willing to bet the house on the former president.

"Do Republicans want a candidate embroiled in endless -- and serious -- legal troubles?" she wrote before detailing Trump's legal problems in Washington D.C., New York and Georgia that could make a 2024 presidential campaign, at best problematic.

"One-third of Republicans and 92% of Democrats don't want him to be a major national political figure going forward. That's not the arithmetic of victory," she wrote before predicting, "There's the potential for a post-Trump Republican Party to gain ground. It still seems like a long shot at this point, but if his critics are successful in persuading the GOP to move in a different direction, there's a chance American democracy can return some semblance of normality, where political leaders debate what policies are best for the country, without fear of upsetting the tender, explosive feelings of a very bad loser.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-gop-2024/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4343 on: November 21, 2021, 03:11:06 AM »
'White male violence' is paralyzing America



According to CNN analyst John Blake, one of the most potent political forces in the U.S. is "white male anger" that has Americans looking over their shoulders and living in fear of what comes next.

Linking together the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse -- who was found not guilty in the killing of two Black Lives Matter protesters -- with the Ahmaud Arbery trial in Georgia and the civil case against the organizers of the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Blake concluded, "There is nothing more frightening in America today than an angry White man."

"It's not the 'radical Islamic terrorist' that I fear the most. Nor is it the brown immigrant or the fiery Black Lives Matter protester, or whatever the latest bogeyman is that some politician tells me I should dread. It's encountering an armed White man in public who has been inspired by the White men on trial in these three cases," he wrote.

Adding that there is "nothing inherently violent about White men, or any human being," the CNN contributor said recent events should not only give everyone pause but should lead the country to ask how we reached the point that White men "feel as if they can rule and brutalize without consequence."

Detailing America's history of brutality, Blake said that -- with the attack on the Capitol on Jan 6th by supporters of Donald Trump -- the problem is growing worse instead of getting better.

"Talking about assaulting and killing political enemies has become so normal -- and seemingly acceptable -- in conservative circles today that a White man felt comfortable enough to ask a right-wing activist at a public forum in Idaho last month: 'When do we get to use the guns? ... How many elections are they going to steal before we kill these people?'" he wrote before adding, "We have enough problems with White male violence as it is. Mass shootings in the US are committed more often by White men than by any other group. Top law enforcement officials now say the nation's biggest domestic terror threat comes from White supremacists. And many of the most indelible news images of recent years include angry, red-faced White men, often armed with guns."

"Look at these three trials, because they point to one frightening future," he added before concluding, "This is what that future looks like: More angry White men emboldened by "stand your ground" and citizen's arrest laws, inspired by a conservative interpretation of the Second Amendment. And more dead Americans."

You can read the whole piece here:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/20/us/angry-white-men-trials-blake-cec/index.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4344 on: November 21, 2021, 11:29:53 PM »
It's good to see Democrats hitting the airwaves and finally stating what I've been saying all along. Criminal Donald, the GOP, and the right wing media are purposely pushing harmful disinformation about the vaccines so their followers won't get vaccinated. They are doing it to suppress the economy so they can sabotage President Biden. And as a result, they are killing off their own supporters. It's about time Dems are speaking out about this pro death GOP cult.

‘Blood on his hands’: Fox News guest accuses Trump of 'ghoulish' plot to win the midterms

Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA) told Fox News on Sunday that former President Donald Trump is guilty of a "ghoulish" attempt to undermine the economy by downplaying the need for Covid-19 vaccinations.

"Next year, we may see a larger Democratic majority as people understand that what Donald Trump is doing today -- and the man has blood on his hands -- is trying to suppress our economy by convincing Americans not to get vaccinated," Sherman explained to host Mike Emanuel. "It's part of a ghoulish political strategy to depress the economy and depress Democratic vote and I don't think it will work."

For his part, Emanuel ignored the theory and moved on to a question about inflation.

Although Trump has been vaccinated for Covid-19, he is on record suggesting that the vaccines cannot be trusted by people who believe the 2020 election was stolen.

Watch the video below from Fox News:


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4345 on: November 22, 2021, 11:09:10 PM »
This is what right wing extremist brainwashing does to people.         

JFK-obsessed QAnon cultists set off alarms with ominous chatter: 'We have to experience physical death'



An offshoot branch of the QAnon conspiracy cult appears headed in a new and potentially deadly direction.

Online conspiracist Michael Brian Protzman drew his followers, who call him Negative48, to Dallas last month to await the return of John F. Kennedy and his son John F. Kennedy Jr., but the tone of his comments turned morbid over the weekend in a video chat participants openly discussed their own deaths as part of a journey toward some unknowable truth, reported Vice.

"Ultimately," said one participant, "we have to experience that physical death ... let go ... come out on the other side."

An administrator for Protzman's Telegram channel posted an ominous screenshot hours later that showed the destination on a navigation app as Waco, Texas, where a monthslong standoff between law enforcement and the Branch Davidian religious sect ended in the fiery deaths of 76 people, including 25 children.

"The moment when the leaders of a cultic group start talking about the need for physical death to reach utopia," tweeted Mike Rothschild, the author of The Storm Is Upon Us, a book about QAnon, "is the moment to get the authorities involved."


One woman whose sister left her husband and three children behind to join Protzman's group in Texas is increasingly concerned about her involvement and doubts she'll see her alive again.

"She left her children for this and doesn't even care," Katy Garner told Vice. "She is missing birthdays and holidays for this. She truly believes this is all real and we are the crazy ones for trying to get her to come home. But she won't. I don't believe she will ever come back from this. We are in mourning."

Garner's sister has given about $200,000 to Protzman's group, cut off all communication with her family and has been taking a hydrogen peroxide solution to protect against COVID-19, and experts in cults and extremist groups share her alarm about what may be coming next for his followers.

"These are basically the exact same spiritual/religious teachings that the guy in California was getting into just before he brutally murdered his two young children," tweeted Caroline Orr Bueno, a behavioral scientist who studies social media manipulation and far-right extremism.

https://www.rawstory.com/michael-brian-protzman-2655776085/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4346 on: November 22, 2021, 11:13:16 PM »
Bring on the indictments! This week would be perfect to kick off the holiday season.

Michael Cohen implicates Ivanka and Don Jr. in crimes while predicting more indictments are coming

Former Trump "fixer" Michael Cohen appeared on CNN Monday to predict that more indictments were coming for members of former President Donald Trump's inner circle -- and he even implicated Trump's adult children in criminal activities.

During an interview with host Alisyn Camerota, Cohen was asked how it felt being the only person prosecuted for making illegal hush money payments during the 2016 presidential election, despite the fact that prosecutors claimed in filings that Trump directly signed off on making them.

"I do want to make this promise to you and all of your viewers: I may have been prosecuted and right now am the only one, but I will not be the only one at the end of the day," he said.

"For this crime?" Camerota asked.

"For this crime and for others," Cohen replied.

Camerota then asked Cohen who else would be indicted, and he said he wanted to leave that decision up to prosecutors.

However, this didn't stop him from implicating members of the Trump family.

"There were quite a few people who were involved," he said. "Eric Trump was involved. Obviously Allen Weisselberg, who's already under indictment. Don Jr., Ivanka -- there were a slew of people who were involved in this."

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