Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3283 on: January 13, 2021, 05:03:39 PM »
There are two groups in this maga cult.

1. The ones that want to keep this criminal in power through any means necessary and know the election was never "stolen" but used it for their failed coup attempt. They represent white power and white supremacy and want to shape the United States into an authoritarian dictatorship. These include his GOP henchmen, his "yes men" stooges, his hate group supporters, and powerful people in the top 1% who want to stay in power.     

2. The other group is the gullible suckers who were brainwashed by the right wing media believing every single piece of disinformation and propaganda they put out.

Trump overplayed his hand.   There was never any chance of overturning the election results because the election was stolen legally when many states used the pandemic as an excuse to change their election laws in a way that was advantageous to China Joe.  So it wasn't "fraud" per se as Trump has stated and there was no legal way to overturn the results.  Rather it was unfair with questionable and unverifiable results.  So there is a third group.  Those that accept that China Joe will become President but want the election laws that were changed to be reviewed and revised for future elections to ensure a verifiable and legal outcome.  Everyone should support that to avoid the cloud that now hangs over China Joe's presidency. 

Offline Allan Fritzke

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3284 on: January 13, 2021, 05:28:54 PM »
Allan is posting Qanon crap that should be removed like it is all over the internet.

p.s. there is no "plan".

Benedict Donal.d is going to prison.

Looks like a real solution!  Ban everyone you don't agree with - it does not come from Qanon crap what I posted.  Banning what posted is real free speech outburst.   The Youtube video likely had mention of some of the plutocrat names which is promptly dismissed as being false or hate speech and Big Tech protects itself by using censorship.  You must love BigTech Facebook, Microsoft, Twitter, Google, Amazon and Apple as they are controlling the social space and what the peasants are allowed to see.  Pretty sad when you buy into these experts as spreading the gospel message and you are not allowed to form opinions on your own!   Censorship by these organization is currently proving that these people control your lives and they are 100% correct and infallible!

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3285 on: January 13, 2021, 06:36:50 PM »
Trump overplayed his hand.   There was never any chance of overturning the election results because the election was stolen legally when many states used the pandemic as an excuse to change their election laws in a way that was advantageous to China Joe.  So it wasn't "fraud" per se as Trump has stated and there was no legal way to overturn the results.  Rather it was unfair with questionable and unverifiable results.

Bull.  There was nothing "unfair", "questionable", or "unverifiable" about the results.

This may be kinder and gentler than Trump's insurrectionist claims of fraud, but it's just as wrong.

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3286 on: January 13, 2021, 09:07:14 PM »
Trump overplayed his hand.   There was never any chance of overturning the election results because the election was stolen legally when many states used the pandemic as an excuse to change their election laws in a way that was advantageous to China Joe.  So it wasn't "fraud" per se as Trump has stated and there was no legal way to overturn the results.  Rather it was unfair with questionable and unverifiable results.  So there is a third group.  Those that accept that China Joe will become President but want the election laws that were changed to be reviewed and revised for future elections to ensure a verifiable and legal outcome.  Everyone should support that to avoid the cloud that now hangs over China Joe's presidency.

the cloud that now hangs over China Joe's presidency.

There is no cloud that hangs over Joe Biden's presidency. There are only extreme right wing nuts who believe every lie Trump told them about so-called "voter fraud". They will never accept anybody except Trump as President and are best completely ignored while the rest of the country moves on.

want the election laws that were changed to be reviewed and revised for future elections to ensure a verifiable and legal outcome.

Nobody should have a problem with that, but let's not limit it to this. Let's also include doing away with gerrymandering, manipulations of the Postal Services, limiting voting locations and drop off points and all attempts to restrict the right to vote.
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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3287 on: January 14, 2021, 03:23:33 AM »
Trump overplayed his hand.   There was never any chance of overturning the election results because the election was stolen legally when many states used the pandemic as an excuse to change their election laws in a way that was advantageous to China Joe.  So it wasn't "fraud" per se as Trump has stated and there was no legal way to overturn the results.  Rather it was unfair with questionable and unverifiable results.  So there is a third group.  Those that accept that China Joe will become President but want the election laws that were changed to be reviewed and revised for future elections to ensure a verifiable and legal outcome.  Everyone should support that to avoid the cloud that now hangs over China Joe's presidency.

 BS:

You mean Criminal China Don who is in bed with China having his secret Chinese bank account.

More b.s. propaganda and disinformation. No state changed their election laws. All they did was give residents of their states an opportunity to vote absentee by mail so they didn't risk their lives voting during the deadliest period of the pandemic. Oregon state strictly votes by mail and so does Republicans in many states.

Benedict Donal.d attempted to steal the election by dismantling the Post Office so people's votes wouldn't be counted because of the slow mail and millions of votes were stolen.       


Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3288 on: January 14, 2021, 03:28:04 AM »
Looks like a real solution!  Ban everyone you don't agree with - it does not come from Qanon crap what I posted.  Banning what posted is real free speech outburst.   The Youtube video likely had mention of some of the plutocrat names which is promptly dismissed as being false or hate speech and Big Tech protects itself by using censorship.  You must love BigTech Facebook, Microsoft, Twitter, Google, Amazon and Apple as they are controlling the social space and what the peasants are allowed to see.  Pretty sad when you buy into these experts as spreading the gospel message and you are not allowed to form opinions on your own!   Censorship by these organization is currently proving that these people control your lives and they are 100% correct and infallible!

Again, you don't have "free speech" to post dangerous and violent threats or harmful disinformation.           

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3289 on: January 14, 2021, 04:08:47 AM »
Rudy Giuliani's explained that when in incited, I mean spoke, to the crowd to “exercise combat justice”, he wasn’t telling them to go to the capitol and exercise combat justice. He was simply making a “Game of Thrones” reference.

This makes sense, because if you have ever seen “Game of Thrones” you know this wasn’t a show about riot and mayhem, but was about different characters getting together to argue, sometimes heatedly among themselves, generally to end with one of the characters declaring “Your right, your lord is the true king of Westeros.

So, Rudy should have made himself clear and set some limits for behavior. That none of the protesters should behave in any manner unless this was also done by one of the characters from this series. And if they start doing something that was never depicted on the screen then they may be getting beyond civilized behavior.

In any case, HBO is announcing a new series that will go well beyond anything seen in “Game of Thrones”, called “Game of the Oval Office”, which will be introduced with the theme music from the “Game of Thrones”, showing pictures of characters from the Game of Thrones, along with their counterpart in the new show “Game of the Oval Office”:

Stannis Baratheon paired with Donald Trump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stannis_Baratheon

Davos Seaworth paired with Mike Pence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davos_Seaworth

Melisandre “The Red Lady” Paired with Melania Trump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melisandre

Grand Maester Pycelle paired with Rudy Giuliani
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Glover

Catelyn Stark paired with Nancy Pelosi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catelyn_Stark

Petyr “Littlefinger” Baelish paired with Ted Cruz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petyr_Baelish

Ramsay Bolton paired with Joshua Hawley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsay_Bolton

Gregor “The Mountain” Clegane paired with Jacob “The Horned Shaman” Chansley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Clegane

And certain scenes like:

Climbing the great ice wall paired with people climbing the Capitol wall.
The assault on King’s Harbor paired with the assault on the Capitol itself

The first season is scheduled to come out by 2023. Don’t miss it.

Suggestions for different or additional pairings of characters or scenes are welcome.

I like the pairing of Stannis Baratheon and Davos Seaworth with Trump and Pence because Davos is always giving his lord, Stannis, sensible advice, which is generally ignored, often with disastrous consequences.
Catelyn Stark is basically a principled, intelligent woman like Nancy Pelosi
And the other pairings are all reasonable.

Thought I did not make it, Joffrey Baratheon paired with Donald Trump would not be wildly wrong.
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