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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2376 on: March 28, 2023, 10:31:46 AM »
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Look at the height of Lovelady's elbow in the Hughes film and note, it's the same level as his head.

Sure, if you misinterpret the film

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Now look at PW's and note it is down by the side of her body.
Completely different postures explaining why the elbows can seem an equivalent height.
Also note in the Hughes clip, it appears Lovelady's shirt is almost hanging off his left shoulder.
Now look at the Weigman pic below that and note that this, too. shows his shirt almost hanging off his left shoulder.
Just like this picture does:


'his shirt almost hanging off his left shoulder', lol



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2376 on: March 28, 2023, 10:31:46 AM »


Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2377 on: March 28, 2023, 11:31:12 AM »
Sure, if you misinterpret the film

No misinterpretation Alan. It's there in the photographic/film evidence:



In the Hughes film Lovelady raises his elbow up to around head height.
In the Weigman still, Prayerwoman has arm elbow down by her side.
Two completely different body positions.
This explains how both elbows can be said to be around the same height.
But you know all this already. It's as plain as day to see.
You are being deliberately misleading.
Why?
You think by simply saying that I've misrepresented the photo/film evidence is enough.
But how have I misinterpreted it. Where do you think I've gone wrong with my interpretation?

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'his shirt almost hanging off his left shoulder', lol



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Look at the Hughes clip above and, in particular, the Weigman still. The shirt is hanging off his left shoulder. Showing the Altgens clip doesn't make any difference to the clip/still that has been posted.

Just to get back to your phenomenal assertion that Prayerwoman becomes Prayerman.



Just look at how different they are.
Just look at all the differences.  ;D
Look at how different the arm positions are.
Look at how bonkers you are.

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2378 on: March 28, 2023, 12:19:25 PM »
In the Hughes film Lovelady raises his elbow up to around head height.

~Grin~

You started out with "Look at the height of Lovelady's elbow in the Hughes film and note, it's the same level as his head."

Now you've downgraded this to "around head height".

By your next post, you'll be quietly lowering the elbow yet further---------------or suddenly losing interest in it altogether.

You realize that you've goofed (YET again), and (true to form) you're scrambling to save face!

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Look at the Hughes clip above and, in particular, the Weigman still. The shirt is hanging off his left shoulder.

Simply amazing how it goes from NOT 'hanging off his left shoulder' to 'hanging off his left shoulder' to NOT 'hanging off his left shoulder'



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Showing the Altgens clip doesn't make any difference to the clip/still that has been posted.

Really? You're the one who assured us that Wiegman is showing Mr. Lovelady with the same body position as Altgens. Here's the line where you lost all contact with reality: "If Lovelady's body is turned facing Weigman side-on, as Altgens 6 seems to suggest, when he turns his head to the left he is looking towards Weigman's position over his left shoulder."

Ok then, genius. Explain how the appearance of Mr. Lovelady's shirt/tshirt in these two images can be reconciled, i.e. how we can go from what Altgens shows to what you're seeing as his shirt 'hanging off his left shoulder' (even typing these last words makes me chuckle.............)



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Just to get back to your phenomenal assertion that Prayerwoman becomes Prayerman.



Just look at how different they are.
Just look at all the differences.  ;D
Look at how different the arm positions are.

Well, exactly------------look at the respective left arms, and what they tell us about respective locations/orientations.

And then, when you've done crying about that, look at PrayerWOMAN's head peeking out just behind PrayerMAN's head in Wiegman

While you're doing all this, the rest of us can be having a good laugh at the thought, "Mr. Dan O'Meara thinks that person on the west side of the landing is an obese woman with white hair":



Loony toons!

  :D
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2379 on: March 28, 2023, 02:41:54 PM »
Rethink Time For Ford?

Is this man waving a small flag?



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2380 on: March 28, 2023, 05:49:07 PM »
Rethink Time For Ford?

Is this man waving a small flag?



And is this then the same man stretching his right arm out to wave away the limousine?


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2380 on: March 28, 2023, 05:49:07 PM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2381 on: March 29, 2023, 01:14:16 PM »
Well!

Team Keep LHO Off Them Steps have the following story to tell:

1. Here's Mr. Lovelady in the Hughes film, standing way over west, behind the black man who is by the white west column---------------



2. As the limousine passes the building, Mr. Lovelady moves east and shows up like this in Bell---------------



However!

Subtract from the Bell clip above the tiny amount of time it takes for the limousine to cover half its own length, and we get this in Towner-----------------



Red Arrow: Ms. Madie Reese
Yellow Arrow: Somebody exactly where Reddish Shirt Man in Hughes was standing just an instant ago
Blue Arrow: A. N. Other, standing a little west of Ms. Reese and a little east of Reddish Shirt Man

'Don't be silly!' cries today's Team Keep LHO Off Them Steps spokesman, 'A.N.Other is just Lovelady (aka Reddish Shirt Man), he has stepped to his right. The person marked by the Yellow Arrow is the person behind him (PrayerWOMAN or Shelley), who has come down off the landing to take up the spot just vacated by Lovelady.'

Uh............ nope.

The reflection of the person behind Reddish Shirt Man in the glass door in Hughes shows that s/he is wearing BLUE:



Whereas Towner shows that the person standing behind the black man is showing up REDDISH:



Ergo! The person standing behind the black man in Towner must be the same person as the person standing behind the black man in Hughes just an instant earlier, i.e Reddish Shirt Man, i.e. Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald.

And A.N.Other, the person in Towner standing about midway between Reddish Shirt Man and Ms. Reese, must be Mr. Billy Lovelady, who is just half a limousine's length away from shifting back to his left and returning to normal standing posture at a spot east enough to place his right shoulder right behind Ms. Reese's elbow:



The only outstanding mystery here is what is the white & blue (with a hint of red down below in the last frame of the clip?) from behind which Mr. Lovelady comes into view?



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2382 on: March 29, 2023, 01:46:34 PM »
While you're doing all this, the rest of us can be having a good laugh at the thought, "Mr. Dan O'Meara thinks that person on the west side of the landing is an obese woman with white hair":



Loony toons!

  :D

To add to the fun, someone has found-----------in some Dan Owens aftermath footage-----------a lady standing in the doorway who looks extremely like Ms. Stanton:



Non-lunatics will enjoy a snicker as they compare her with PrayerWOMAN------------------------



----------------------and then look for a non-absurd candidate:



The reflection in the glass in Hughes establishes that Ms. Pauline Sanders was wearing blue that day

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2382 on: March 29, 2023, 01:46:34 PM »


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2383 on: March 29, 2023, 05:04:55 PM »
Up to just a few weeks ago, it was assumed that Reddish Shirt Man in Hughes is shielding his eyes.

He's not-----------------he's taking a drink from a bottle:



And this aftermath photograph shows certain lunchtime items left right beside where he stood:




I believe these items are-----------------------

1. White wrapping paper (used for cheese sandwiches)
2. Coca Cola bottle
3. Apple core stuck into mouth of bottle

-----------------------and that they were left there by Mr. Oswald



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