Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #931 on: January 19, 2021, 06:29:00 PM »
Actually we have determined nothing of the sort, Mr Cakebread. Perfectly possible this happened on the third floor, and not impossible it happened on the fourth.

Actually we have determined nothing of the sort, Mr Cakebread.

Actually "WE" ( All rational and clear thinking people) have determined that Baker could not have been describing either the third or fourth floor as the place where he and Truly encountered a man who did NOT fit the description of Lee Oswald.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #932 on: January 19, 2021, 06:40:01 PM »
Those unfamiliar with the 'bendy' logic of Mr Ford will be saying to themselves, "Surely the 3rd floor is the best way to hedge your bets, midway between both points. And that way you don't have to create this ridiculous Hoax with all it's

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complexity and unlikeliness, dragging in scores of people to prop up this insanity. Just say the man on the 3rd floor is Oswald."

Glad to see you now accept that the words "I saw a man walking away from the stairway" do after all work for the third floor!  Thumb1:

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To be honest, as long as he leaves the scene before Truly and Baker it can be any floor you want.

Ah, but the 'investigating' authorities know full well by now that Mr Oswald wasn't just on the front steps at the time of the shooting but had an interaction with Officer Baker at that front entrance. Why, DPD have been telling the world about it!

So the third floor won't work--------Officer Baker and Mr Truly are the ones with the head start, see? How would you get from Mr Oswald at the front entrance to Mr Oswald walking away from the stairway on a floor that Officer Baker and Mr Truly are themselves only just reaching?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #933 on: January 19, 2021, 06:44:56 PM »
Even Oswald is a member of this team, stating on film he was in the TSBD at the time of the shooting.

~Grin~ You're still in complete denial about this-------



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You seemed to have missed the point Alan.
In your fantasy world the "investigating authorities" (which, I assume, involved elements of the DPD. Unless, of course, you've gone all out and the "investigating authorities", as far as you are concerned, are comprised solely of X-Men)... I've lost my train of thought...

You ok, Mr O'Meara?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #934 on: January 19, 2021, 06:46:45 PM »
the 'investigating'  authorities ( conspirators and those who were railroading Lee Oswald) )  knew full well by now that Mr Oswald had been on the front steps at the time of the shooting.

NOTHING in the evidence even hints or suggests that Captain Fritz ( the Conductor on the railroad) or any other  law enforcement officer believed that Lee was on the front steps at the time of the shooting. ( Lee told them that he was on the first floor eating his lunch at that time)

~Yawn~

Nope: Mr Oswald told them he "went outside to watch P. Parade".

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #935 on: January 19, 2021, 06:48:50 PM »
The lunchroom story is the only way of hedging bets-------------a location to which Mr Oswald could (at least notionally) have descended from the sixth floor or ascended from the first.

Actually Mr Ford, I strongly doubt the official tale about Truly leading Baker across the first floor and stopping at the elevators and yelling for the elevator to be released.    I believe Baker went immediately up the stairs to the second floor, and Truly caught up to him at the swinging door at the entrance to the 2nd floor office area.

Of course this would have been less than a minute after the shooting and the lunchroom encounter with Lee Oswalt would have been about a minute after the shooting , and of course the patsy Lee Harvey Oswald could not have descended from the sixth floor to the lunchroom in just one minute.    Thus they made up the story about Baker and Truly dashing across the first floor to the elevators.

And I believe this is the reason that Baker thought he was on "either the third or fourth floor" when he spotted a suspicious acting man walking away from the stairs.....  Baker had forgotten that he had already ascended to the second floor by way of the stairs inside the front door of the TSBD at the SE corner of the building.

Tortured logic, Mr Cakebread!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #936 on: January 19, 2021, 06:50:15 PM »
Actually we have determined nothing of the sort, Mr Cakebread.

Actually "WE" ( All rational and clear thinking people) have determined that Baker could not have been describing either the third or fourth floor as the place where he and Truly encountered a man who did NOT fit the description of Lee Oswald.

Nope-----poor Mr O'Meara just got all excited until it was pointed out to him he had confused the UP and the DOWN stairs

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #937 on: January 19, 2021, 06:51:37 PM »
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Glad to see you now accept that the words "I saw a man walking away from the stairway" do after all work for the third floor!  Thumb1:

Ah, but the 'investigating' authorities know full well by now that Mr Oswald wasn't just on the front steps at the time of the shooting but had an interaction with Officer Baker at that front entrance. Why, DPD have been telling the world about it!

So the third floor won't work--------Officer Baker and Mr Truly are the ones with the head start, see? How would you get from Mr Oswald at the front entrance to Mr Oswald walking away from the stairway on a floor that Officer Baker and Mr Truly are themselves only just reaching?

Question for Mr Ford....If Lee had been at the front door at the time of the shooting that would have provided him with an airtight alibi.   When Captain Fritz asked him where he was at the time the President was shot ( That's what Fritz claimed that he asked Lee) Lee would simply have said Well Cap,  I was standing on the front steps of the TSBD at that time, and a DPD Motorcycle officer can vouch for me....Because he asked me if I worked in the building.