Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2030 on: February 14, 2023, 01:33:22 AM »
Perhaps completely OFF-TOPIC! (Or perhaps not................):

Question! Why were so many people standing packed together on the EAST side of the doorway , and so few standing on the WEST side? What was it about those west steps that made folks so west-averse??

Think about it. What------------other than somebody already standing there-----------might stop you from taking up your position on a certain part of the steps?

We shall return to this question anon....................

But first, some other questions!

Question 1!
Why are Mr. Carl Edward Jones' clothes showing up in blue in Hughes and Towner? He was wearing beige that day.






Question 2!
Why did this same Mr. Carl Edward Jones say this to FBI on 3/18/64?
"When President John F . Kennedy was shot I was sitting on the front steps of the Texas School Book Depository Building."

Question 3!
If Mr. Roy Edward Lewis had his cardigan off, what color would his clothes show up as in a color film?


Question 4!
If Mr. Roy Edward Lewis and not Mr. Carl Edward Jones were the man standing at the bottom of the west side of the doorway, and if Mr. Lewis were (with his left hand) waving his brown cardigan enthusiastically at the passing Pres. & Mrs. Kennedy, might it not look just like what we see in Towner?


Question 5!
If the beige-clothed Mr. Carl Edward Jones were sitting several steps up just east of and some distance behind Mr. Roy Edward Lewis, might not his torso flicker in and out of view from behind Mr. Lewis' cardigan just like this?



Question 6: The Summative Question!
Is this man really Mr. Carl Edward Jones? Or is he in fact Mr. Roy Edward Lewis?



I submit that he is Mr. Roy Edward Lewis.

It may interest you to know that Mr. Lewis himself has identified himself as this man (in an audio interview not too long ago). Everyone (myself included) thought he was crazy. And the mystery of where the heck he is on those steps has bedevilled researchers for ages.

I submit we've been staring at him the whole time, thinking he was Mr. Carl Edward Jones.

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'But!' I hear you cry, 'Altgens Altgens Altgens!!! It refutes your claim because it shows Jones not Lewis!!!!!!'

Indeed it does, at least in its 'canonical' reiterations.

Ah yes, Altgens Altgens Altgens. That's where the real fun and games begin...................


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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2031 on: February 14, 2023, 01:46:29 AM »
Friends, there are still some details to be teased out here and there, and some jolly back-and-forth to be had, but I believe we are now at the point where we can-------------for the very first time ever------------track Mr. Lee Harvey Oswald's exact positions/movements during the assassination.

POSITION A

Mr. Oswald is just behind Mr. Carl Edward Jones at the bottom of the west side of the entrance way.

In the light of what I have just posted, I must update the above:

POSITION A

Mr. Oswald is just behind Mr. Carl Edward Jones Roy Edward Lewis at the bottom of the west side of the entrance way.



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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2032 on: February 14, 2023, 09:05:45 AM »
Wiegman frames, four seconds between them:

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2033 on: February 14, 2023, 01:25:00 PM »
Wiegman frames, four seconds between them:


Last couple of Wiegman doorway frames------------------------


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2034 on: February 14, 2023, 01:27:32 PM »
Perhaps completely OFF-TOPIC! (Or perhaps not................):

Question! Why were so many people standing packed together on the EAST side of the doorway , and so few standing on the WEST side? What was it about those west steps that made folks so west-averse??

Think about it. What------------other than somebody already standing there-----------might stop you from taking up your position on a certain part of the steps?

Here's one answer: common courtesy.

You won't plant yourself in a place that blocks the view of any person or persons sitting there

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2035 on: February 14, 2023, 02:30:12 PM »
'But!' I hear you cry, 'Altgens Altgens Altgens!!! It refutes your claim because it shows Jones not Lewis!!!!!!'

Indeed it does, at least in its 'canonical' reiterations.

Ah yes, Altgens Altgens Altgens. That's where the real fun and games begin...................


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Here's what happened. The authorities, in their desperation to keep a lid on Mr. Oswald's presence on the steps, made the mother of all goof-ups.

-They studied any front doorway images they had managed to get their hands on

-They saw Mr. Oswald in Wiegman: We'll have to black him out

-They saw Mr. Oswald's right arm/coke in Altgens: We'll have to deal with that

-They looked again at Wiegman: Hey, see that black guy standing at the bottom of the steps? He might be useful here. Who is he?

-They scoured some aftermath photos, and found-------or thought they had found---------this black man: Let's take this profile of his face and paste it into Altgens to help hide the Oswald bits

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-A profile pic was the best they could throw at the thing.  It wasn't perfect, as it had the man looking the wrong way, but needs must..........

-However, what they didn't know was that, in looking at the black-and-white Wiegman frames, they had misidentified Mr. Roy Edward Lewis as Mr. Carl Edward Jones!

-They did some retouching to Mr. Jones's face to blend it in, and retouched Mr. Oswald's lower arm/hand to make it look like Mr. Lovelady's left arm:



A bit of further retouching, and hey presto----------the 'canonical' post-Cronkite Altgens photo was born. The result was a hot mess, but it did the job.

Mr. Jones in 'canonical' Altgens does not refute the evidence for Mr. Roy Edward Lewis being at the bottom of the steps; the evidence for Mr. Roy Edward Lewis being at the bottom of the steps proves that Altgens was doctored

Fascinating exchange from 24:28 here. The lady questioner is quite right to point out the problem, but she hasn't worked out that the wrong man's face was used!


Mr. Lewis knew and knows exactly where he was standing at the time of the assassination. When he first saw Canonical Altgens, he must have been pretty perplexed!

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #2036 on: February 14, 2023, 04:07:50 PM »
Here's what happened. The authorities, in their desperation to keep a lid on Mr. Oswald's presence on the steps, made the mother of all goof-ups.

-They studied any front doorway images they had managed to get their hands on

-They saw Mr. Oswald in Wiegman: We'll have to black him out

-They saw Mr. Oswald's right arm/coke in Altgens: We'll have to deal with that

-They looked again at Wiegman: Hey, see that black guy standing at the bottom of the steps? He might be useful here. Who is he?

-They scoured some aftermath photos, and found-------or thought they had found---------this black man: Let's take this profile of his face and paste it into Altgens to help hide the Oswald bits

e.g.



-A profile pic was the best they could throw at the thing.  It wasn't perfect, as it had the man looking the wrong way, but needs must..........

-However, what they didn't know was that, in looking at the black-and-white Wiegman frames, they had misidentified Mr. Roy Edward Lewis as Mr. Carl Edward Jones!

-They did some retouching to Mr. Jones's face to blend it in, and retouched Mr. Oswald's upper arm/hand to make it look like Mr. Lovelady's left arm:



A bit of further retouching, and hey presto----------the 'canonical' post-Cronkite Altgens photo was born. The result was a hot mess, but it did the job.

Mr. Jones in 'canonical' Altgens does not refute the evidence for Mr. Roy Edward Lewis being at the bottom of the steps; the evidence for Mr. Roy Edward Lewis being at the bottom of the steps proves that Altgens was doctored

Fascinating exchange from 24:28 here. The lady questioner is quite right to point out the problem, but she hasn't worked out that the wrong man's face was used!


Mr. Lewis knew and knows exactly where he was standing at the time of the assassination. When he first saw Canonical Altgens, he must have been pretty perplexed!

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Full moon or another Chinese balloon floating overhead?  This stuff is far out even from a CTer.  Take this "evidence" to the NY Times or Tucker Carlson.  Tell them you have proven that Oswald was not a shooter and that there was a conspiracy to kill the president.  Get back to us with their response.