Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #196 on: August 02, 2020, 08:27:00 PM »
Your hero said he was in the lunchroom (when the motorcade passed by)
But I'd say he had somewhat loftier ambitions that day.

The TSBD steps were not enclosed.
Some people were outside on the steps, not inside the building.

Definitly on the premises, though.
Which includes the Cuckoo's Nest, of course ;)
Was he in the lunchroom or inside the lunchroom?

Offline Alan J. Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #197 on: August 02, 2020, 08:32:34 PM »
Your hero said he was in the lunchroom (when the motorcade passed by)
But I'd say he had somewhat loftier ambitions that day.

The TSBD steps were not enclosed.
Some people were outside on the steps, not inside the building.

Definitly on the premises, though.
Which includes the Cuckoo's Nest, of course ;)

Show/share with those of us reading along, Mr. Chapman, where the wrongly accused said he was in the lunchroom (when the motorcade passed). Caution: Not where a third-party wrote that he said it, but directly from the wrongly accused will suffice.

What next, the steps were detached from the entrance closure and were waaaay out in the street, Mr. Chapman?

You probably also believe that from his loftier ambition spot he still somehow managed to see two human beings (Mr. Jarman and Mr. Norman) reenter the building between 12:25-12:28PM from the rear while he was supposedly six stories up in the front of the building. Am I understanding you clearly, Mr. Chapman?

Once again, Are you up to the task of producing a credible candidate to account for Prayer Man's specific position?

Those of us reading along understand why if you cannot do so. There's a reason for that

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #198 on: August 02, 2020, 08:46:44 PM »


Too bad that the other people who were on the steps all refer to being on the OUTSIDE.

As did Mr Oswald! "Then went outside to watch P. parade."  Thumb1:

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Mr. LOVELADY - That's on the second floor; so, I started going to the domino room where I generally went in to set down and eat and nobody was there and I happened to look on the outside and Mr. Shelley was standing outside with Miss Sarah Stanton, I believe her name is, and I said, "Well, I'll go out there and talk with them, sit down and eat my lunch out there, set on the steps," so I went out there.

Mr. BALL - You were standing where?
Mr. SHELLEY - Just outside the glass doors there.
Mr. BALL - That would be on the top landing of the entrance?
Mr. SHELLEY - yes.

Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; not right then I didn't. I say, you know, he was supposed to come by during our lunch hour so you don't get very many chances to see the President of the United States and being an old Texas boy, and [he] never having been down to Texas very much I went out there to see him and just like everybody else was, I was standing on the steps there and watched for the parade to come by and so I did and I stood there until he come by


Sarah Stanton who was on the steps described to the FBI that after hearing the shots "immediately went into the building".



Try again!

JohnM

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The fact that you have to work so hard to find such a paltry counter-argument shows just how worried you are, Mr Mytton!

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #199 on: August 02, 2020, 08:59:54 PM »


Question What time did you go to lunch?
Oswald   At noon.
Question Where did you go for lunch?
Oswald    I went to the 2nd floor to get a coke then went back to the 1st floor to eat my lunch.
Question Then what happened?
Oswald    I then went outside to watch the Presidents Parade.


Oswald was implying that he had no idea what was happening outside.

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No, Mr Mytton, he was stating that he went outside to watch the motorcade. Which is what he did---------which is why Captain Fritz and his pals hid his statement from the world!

On your rather desperate reading, Mr Oswald tells Captain Fritz: 'A cop came running into the room, stuck a gun in my belly and asked me if I worked there. Mr Truly told him I did and they went off running up the stairs. This happens to us employees most days around lunchtime, so I didn't think anything of it. Then I went downstairs, had lunch and went outside to watch the Presidential parade. Imagine my surprise when...'

Great theory you got there, Mr Mytton!  Thumb1:

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Btw under Ford's scenario even Oswald refers to being on the steps as being outside. OUCH that's gotta hurt!

What's gotta hurt, Mr Mytton, is that you can't for the life of you find a way to rebut the simple fact that there is only one place that can be said to be both 'in the building' and 'outside': the front entranceway!

Of course, had the reporter asked Mr Oswald, 'Were you inside the building at the time?', it's likely Mr Oswald would have answered a little more expansively along the lines, 'Well, sir, I was on the front steps of the building.' A pity that's not how it played out? Sure. But now----------thanks to the Hosty draft report that has broken your heart----------we know exactly where Mr Oswald claimed to have been. So... you lose------again!   Thumb1:

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #200 on: August 02, 2020, 09:02:33 PM »
CT Trial of Lee Harvey Oswald

Mr Oswald: I'm innocent
CT Judge: Okay, you can go
Mr Oswald: [SMIRK]

Captain Fritz: Where were you when the President passed the building?
Mr Oswald: I was outside.

WC counsel: Where did Oswald say he was when the President passed the building?
Captain Fritz: He said he was inside.

Good enough for Mr Chapman!  :D

Offline Alan J. Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #201 on: August 02, 2020, 09:07:43 PM »
Captain Fritz: Where were you when the President passed the building?
Mr Oswald: I was outside.

WC counsel: Where did Oswald say he was when the President passed the building?
Captain Fritz: He said he was inside.

Good enough for Mr Chapman!  :D

Oh noooo! Say it ain't so, Captain Fritz...amazing what some people will do & say for thirty pieces of silver. Thank goodness for all the honest to goodness Frank Serpicos who couldn't be bought.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #202 on: August 02, 2020, 09:13:21 PM »
Oh noooo! Say it ain't so, Captain Fritz...amazing what some people will do & say for thirty pieces of silver. Thank goodness for all the honest to goodness Frank Serpicos who couldn't be bought.

I can't help wondering did Agent Hosty deliberately leave his draft report in his notes, secure in the knowledge that it would meet the daylight of day sooner or later... It is striking how he never backed up the claim that Mr Oswald talked about any post-assassination second-floor lunchroom encounter with a cop and Mr Truly.

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