Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )

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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1050 on: January 23, 2021, 06:10:25 PM »
At the time of the shooting his reference is that he is inside the building and comes down the stairs to go outside. After the lunchroom encounter with Trully and Baker.

I agree.
According to Holmes Oswald seems to be saying he was on the second floor at the time of the shooting.

Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1051 on: January 23, 2021, 07:13:59 PM »
I agree.
According to Holmes Oswald seems to be saying he was on the second floor at the time of the shooting.

After the "commotion" He went downstairs where he met Trully and Baker, which is known to have taken place on the second floor. He came down the stairs to be where he was already was located. He should have used himself as an alibi and claimed he seen himself standing there.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1052 on: January 23, 2021, 08:01:19 PM »
Fritz wrote his notes several days up to a week later when all the important information escaped his mind.

From the memo of Postal Inspector Harry Holmes, on page 636 of the WR.

Captain Fritz then asked him (LHO) about the ID card .........And he flared up and said " I told you all I'm going to about that card, YOU TOOK NOTES, just read them for yourself if you want to refresh your memory" 

Holmes is reporting that Lee noticed that Fritz was taking notes during the interrogation....

Do you still believe that Fritz scribbled those notes several days after the interrogation?   Perhaps you should watch a few episodes of the TV program "The First 48"and take note that the interrogating officers always have a pen and paper and record the suspects answers to their questions...   That is simply basic procedure in all police departments.  i

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1053 on: January 23, 2021, 08:11:30 PM »
From the memo of Postal Inspector Harry Holmes, on page 636 of the WR.

Captain Fritz then asked him (LHO) about the ID card .........And he flared up and said " I told you all I'm going to about that card, YOU TOOK NOTES, just read them for yourself if you want to refresh your memory" 

Holmes is reporting that Lee noticed that Fritz was taking notes during the interrogation....

Do you still believe that Fritz scribbled those notes several days after the interrogation?   Perhaps you should watch a few episodes of the TV program "The First 48"and take note that the interrogating officers always have a pen and paper and record the suspects answers to their questions...   That is simply basic procedure in all police departments.  i

"Fritz then asked him (LHO) about the ID card .........And he flared up and said " I told you all I'm going to about that card, YOU TOOK NOTES, just read them for yourself if you want to refresh your memory" 

Wow. Hadn't spotted that before Walt.
That really puts the cat amongst the pigeons.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1054 on: January 23, 2021, 08:36:17 PM »
At the time of the shooting his reference is that he is inside the building and comes down the stairs to go outside. After the lunchroom encounter with Trully and Baker.

Except-----------Postal Inspector Holmes recalls Mr Oswald putting the encounter "First floor. Front entrance to the first floor".

Which, quite by coincidence, is exactly where DPD's first dispatches to the press 11/22 put the encounter-------and where Mr Billy Lovelady told Mr James Jarman he saw an Oswald-Officer-Truly encounter.

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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1055 on: January 23, 2021, 10:02:58 PM »
Except-----------Postal Inspector Holmes recalls Mr Oswald putting the encounter "First floor. Front entrance to the first floor".

Which, quite by coincidence, is exactly where DPD's first dispatches to the press 11/22 put the encounter-------and where Mr Billy Lovelady told Mr James Jarman he saw an Oswald-Officer-Truly encounter.

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Where is Lovelady talking about an encounter? He is not even on the steps, instead he is looking back from 75 feet away and saw them enter the building.

Mr. BALL - By the time you left the steps had Mr. Truly entered the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - As we left the steps I would say we were at least 15. maybe 25. steps away from the building. I looked back and I saw him and the policeman running into the building.
Mr. BALL - How many steps?
Mr. LOVELADY - Twenty, 25.
Mr. BALL - Steps away and you looked back and saw him enter the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.

Quote the DPD Dispatches.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went outside to watch P. parade ( Parts 1 & 2 )
« Reply #1056 on: January 23, 2021, 10:18:37 PM »
Where is Lovelady talking about an encounter? He is not even on the steps, instead he is looking back from 75 feet away and saw them enter the building.

Mr. BALL - By the time you left the steps had Mr. Truly entered the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - As we left the steps I would say we were at least 15. maybe 25. steps away from the building. I looked back and I saw him and the policeman running into the building.
Mr. BALL - How many steps?
Mr. LOVELADY - Twenty, 25.
Mr. BALL - Steps away and you looked back and saw him enter the building?
Mr. LOVELADY - Yes.

Quote the DPD Dispatches.

He told a very different story to Mr James Jarman shortly after the assassination (see Mr Jarman's HSCA interview)