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Offline Lee Wotton

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #72 on: February 15, 2018, 07:10:30 PM »
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Thanks for pointing out my error John. Obviously the correct identity was: Office N.M. McDonald - "Captor of Oswald".

One of your errors

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #73 on: February 15, 2018, 07:56:01 PM »
Exactly Tom, I defy anyone to unexpectedly hear gun fire feel a pain to the face and keep count of the number of shots!!

LOL Where do you get such nonsense?

Tague was there. He heard 3 shots. He felt a sting. An officer had to point out that he was bleeding Seems to me he was focussed more on what he was seeing and hearing.

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #74 on: February 15, 2018, 09:00:06 PM »
LOL Where do you get such nonsense?

Tague was there. He heard 3 shots. He felt a sting. An officer had to point out that he was bleeding Seems to me he was focussed more on what he was seeing and hearing.

What a load of rubbish Bill; even Tague wasn't sure and yet you know better

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Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #75 on: February 15, 2018, 09:24:57 PM »

The head shot was travelling in the opposite direction.


... Fired from the storm drain inlet opening? Atop the Underpass? From the wooden fence? Dealey Plaza infield? Bill Greer?

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #76 on: February 15, 2018, 09:30:48 PM »

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Decker_Ex_5323.pdf

ASSASSINATION Or PRESIDENT KENNEDY
Officer Buddy Walther_ Deputy Sheriff Dallas County Sheriff's Office


Date Nov 22, 1963

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"...I immediately went to the triple underpass
on Elm Street in an effort to locate possible marks left by stray bullets.
While I was looking for possible marks, some unknown person stated to
me that something had hit his face while he was parked on Main Street,
the next lane south from Elm, as the traffic had been stopped for the
parade. Upon examining the curb and pavement in this vicinity I found
where a bullet had splattered on the top edge of the curb
on Main Street
which would place the direction of firing, high and behind the position
the Presidents car was in when he was shot..."


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A lead smear at best. Certainly not from a direct hit from full metal jacketed bullet at about 1800 f/s.

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #77 on: February 15, 2018, 09:33:41 PM »
Mr. LIEBELER. Did you hear any more shots after you felt yourself get hit in the face?
Mr. TAGUE. I believe I did.
Mr. LIEBELER. You think you did?
Mr. TAGUE. I believe I did.
Mr. LIEBELER. How many?
Mr. TAGUE. I believe that it was the second shot, so I heard the third shot afterwards.

On the other hand, you definitively stated that it was the third shot.  What makes you more authoritative on this than the guy who was actually hit?

Mr. TAGUE. I felt it at the time, but I didn't associate, didn't make any connection, and ignored it. And after this happened, or maybe the second or third shot, I couldn't tell you definitely-
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Mr. TAGUE. I would guess it was either the second or third. I wouldn't say definitely on which one.

It being the second of third shot rules out it being the first shot. A fragment from the head shot is the most reasonable explanation. I've yet to see anyone come close to providing a believable explanation for Tague being wounded by the second shot. You are welcome to try though.


I'm only taking Tague at his word.

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #78 on: February 15, 2018, 09:39:37 PM »
Only if you pre-assume that there was a "first shot" that missed everything else.  This is a good example of making the evidence fit your argument.

My original response here on the Tague hit was to Lloyd Morris who stated :

"If Mary Woodward was correct and the first shot missed [and likely hit James Tague near the triple underpass "

If you think that you can present a reasonable case that Tague was hit by the first shot then, by all means, go ahead.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2018, 09:51:43 PM by Tim Nickerson »

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #79 on: February 15, 2018, 09:39:53 PM »
A lead smear at best. Certainly not from a direct hit from full metal jacketed bullet at about 1800 f/s.

Did I miss something?  Who claimed it was a "direct hit from full metal jacketed bullet at about 1800 f/s"?  Wouldn't this be a matter of what was fired and from where?