Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy

[Tim Nickerson]

Only if you pre-assume that there was a "first shot" that missed everything else.  This is a good example of making the evidence fit your argument.

My original response here on the Tague hit was to Lloyd Morris who stated :

"If Mary Woodward was correct and the first shot missed [and likely hit James Tague near the triple underpass "

If you think that you can present a reasonable case that Tague was hit by the first shot then, by all means, go ahead.

[John Iacoletti]

A lead smear at best. Certainly not from a direct hit from full metal jacketed bullet at about 1800 f/s.

Did I miss something?  Who claimed it was a "direct hit from full metal jacketed bullet at about 1800 f/s"?  Wouldn't this be a matter of what was fired and from where?

[John Iacoletti]

I'm only taking Tague at his word.

Did he or did he not say that he remembered a shot after he was hit?

[Tim Nickerson]

James Tague was a big problem to the WC.
How easy it would have been to have one non fatal shot each PREZ & GOV and then head shot as the third Tague destroys that and when his story is picked up by the AP in early summer 1964 the WC cannot ignore him

Tague was called July 23 1964..(WC on a scheduled timeline to be finished)
..and the below FBI memo (portion of pg. 3 unsigned) dated July 17th 1964
It references the photographers (Dillard & Underwood) that took the photos of the MH cover
But wait....The hit to the MH cover and turf has now turned into a hit to the curb and the "nick" cannot be found



It could be the weather....
"...it should be noted that, since the mark was observed on November 23, 1963 there had been numerous rains which could have possibly washed away such a mark and also that the area is cleaned by a street cleaning machine about once a week which would also wash away such mark..."

But on August 05 1964 Shaneyfelt was able to find a mark [yeah..."Shadyguy"]
....so the initial mark on the MH cover & turf can now become the curb.....



Shaneyfelt comes up with a series of photos that have nothing to do with the original Dillard & Underwood subject
..and the record is left with the mark on the curb that had been the ricochet that hit Tague
Once again Shaneyfelt is called back as late as Sept 1st to clarify 

Mr. Shaneyfelt.
    Yes.
    Using photographs made by Mr. Underwood and Mr. Dillard in November 1963, either the 22d or 23d, of this mark on the curb, I went to Dallas and was successful in locating a mark. Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 29 contains the photographs used to locate the mark on the curbing on the south side of Main Street at the assassination site.
Photograph No. 1 of this exhibit is the photograph of the mark made by Mr. Underwood, the red arrow indicating the mark on the curb.
Photograph No. 2 is the photograph made by Mr. Dillard of the mark on the curb, and the red arrow again designates the mark.
Photograph No. 3 of Shaneyfelt Exhibit No. 29 is a photograph that was made by Mr. Underwood by placing his camera on the mark and pointing it toward the Texas School Book Depository Building, and he stated he did this so that the resulting photograph could be used to relocate this mark on the curb should it ever be necessary.

Mr. Redlich.
    I gather that without that photograph taken by Mr. Underwood it would have been extremely difficult, if not impossible, to have located this mark, is that correct?
Mr. Shaneyfelt.
    It would have been more difficult. Mr. Dillard's photograph actually contained some background that was of value, and we would have found it without this, but this made it much easier. Photograph No. 3, which was made by Mr. Underwood, allowed us to go immediately within a foot to a foot and a haft of, the actual mark.

Tague always knew his story was a problem and the WC had to explain his hit:
"They had to go back and rewrite the Warren Commission," Tague said. "That's where the magic bullet came from. That's the only thing they could come up with. That's the only thing they could come up with. That one bullet went through two people."

..and the bullet that hit the MH cover becomes the missed shot that ricocheted off the curb and hit Tague

Where did you copy and paste that BS from?

[Tim Nickerson]

Did he or did he not say that he remembered a shot after he was hit?

Did he not say that he could not and would not say definitively on which shot he was hit on?

[Tim Nickerson]

Did I miss something?  Who claimed it was a "direct hit from full metal jacketed bullet at about 1800 f/s"?  Wouldn't this be a matter of what was fired and from where?

Again, you are more than welcome to present your case for Tague having been hit by the first shot. Knock yourself out.

[John Iacoletti]

Again, you are more than welcome to present your case for Tague having been hit by the first shot. Knock yourself out.

When did I ever say that Tague was hit by the first shot?  You stated as a fact that Tague wasn't hit until the third shot and had to ignore / minimize what Tague actually said in order to do it.