Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form

[Tim Nickerson]

Did you just join this forum? Several times I have acknowledged that the magic bullet-- CE 399 [Commission's name for it] was fired from the 6th floor rifle. Sometimes, I think Tim Nickerson is really a computer program.
The "finding" of CE 399 now has been moved around...from near Gov Connally to his stretcher and then NEAR his stretcher and maybe where his stretcher was. The point is that it is conjecture...all of it and that bullet could have been fired the day before and rolled out on the floor that day to be found. And for some unfathomable reason...Warren Report believers bite into this relatively undamaged projectile like a fish bites into a nice juicy worm wrapped around a hook.

I apologize for not realizing that you were referring to CE 399. When I read "fragments" I automatically assumed the two large fragments found in the limo. The finding of CE 399 was established very early on. Confusion about it arose months later. That's why earliest statements are usually the most reliable. There is no hard evidence of any kind that would cause me to doubt the earliest statements made by Tomlinson and Jane Wester.

[Tim Nickerson]

This is the kind of cetainty that the Warren Report is based on

Not really. We have the earlier statement by Tomlinson to go by. Try using some common sense as well. You acknowledge that CE 399 was fired at the limo that day from the sixth floor rifle. Meaning that it had to have struck Connally after passing through JFK. What would it be doing on any other stretcher than the one that Connally had been on?

[Jerry Freeman]

Not really. We have the earlier statement by Tomlinson to go by. Try using some common sense as well. You acknowledge that CE 399 was fired at the limo that day from the sixth floor rifle. Meaning that it had to have struck Connally after passing through JFK. What would it be doing on any other stretcher than the one that Connally had been on?

I did not "acknowledge that CE 399 was fired that day" get your eyes checked.
People with 'common sense' have long realized that it was vital to the authorities case to have "evidence" linking the 6th floor rifle to the shooting. They would have done it some other way...but CE 399 provided a certain 'legitimacy' to things....an entirely whole bullet that could be easily traced to the rifle was just perfect.
CE 399 was probably fired into a mattress [perhaps]--- earlier that week.

We have the earlier statement by Tomlinson to go by.

You might have found an FBI report but where did Tomlinson sign that statement officially under oath?

[John Iacoletti]

Assuming for the sake of argument that Warner's second hand recording of their statements was accurate, where does it say that it was the same stretcher if Tomlinson pulled it off the elevator and it was unattended for an hour?  Also, he doesn't quote Wester saying anything about bandage pads and a glove, or Tomlinson saying anything about pieces of paper.

[Martin Weidmann]

Correct.

That's Wester's recollection made on March 20, 1964.

Quote from: Tim Nickerson on Today at 04:52:54 AM
As I said earlier, the earliest statements made by those who handled the stretcher confirm that it was found on Connally's stretcher.




Only one stretcher with bloody sheets on it was placed on that elevator from the time that Connally went up on the elevator until after 3:30 Pm.

What Wester told the Secret Service on 4 - 5 December 1963 does not differ from what she said in her testimony to the WC except that under oath she added she had removed the items from the stretcher before passing it to Jimison.

Nothing you have presented so far justifies the conclusion that Tomlinson found the bullet on the stretcher used for Connally.

It also does not support your claim that "the earliest statements made by those who handled the stretcher confirm that it was found on Connally's stretcher" as nobody in any statement confirmed anything of the kind. It's all conjecture on your part.

Btw, any idea what happened to the bullet nurse Hall describes at 2.07 in this video?

[Paul May]

What Paul will never understand or accept is that history books do not contain an objective record of what exactly happened in the past.

Instead, they very often give a skewed version of an event desired by those who controlled the narrative.

I understand perfectly Martin. In the world you inhabit everything is a conspiracy. Everything. Paranoia is mental illness.

[Jack Trojan]

Not really. We have the earlier statement by Tomlinson to go by. Try using some common sense as well. You acknowledge that CE 399 was fired at the limo that day from the sixth floor rifle. Meaning that it had to have struck Connally after passing through JFK. What would it be doing on any other stretcher than the one that Connally had been on?

Are you confused that the MB was not found on Connally's stretcher?

• Entered President Kennedy’s upper back
• Passed through his upper back and lower neck
• Came out of his throat just below the Adam’s apple
• Entered Governor John Connally’s back close to his right armpit
• Passed through his body, smashing several inches of one rib
• Came out of the right side of his chest
• Passed through his right wrist, breaking the radius bone
• Embedded itself in his left thigh
• And finally, while Connally was laying on a stretcher in Parkland Hospital, the bullet worked its way out of his thigh and fell onto another unrelated stretcher outside the OR, where it was discovered by a hospital employee.

Why doesn't the Magic Bullet bother you, is the question?