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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2019, 04:27:24 AM »
 
The FBI [Hoover] reported that there was an insignificant difference in the fragment analysis with respect to matching them to "Oswald's" ammo [or whatever they did] Point is--- Any difference at all whatsoever in the metallurgy testing rules out the conclusions absolutely.

The FBI expert who actually examined the fragments said otherwise. And he did so under oath.

Mr. EISENBERG - Did you examine this? Is this a bullet fragment, Mr. Frazier?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir. This consists of a piece of the jacket portion of a bullet from the nose area and a piece of the lead core from under the jacket.
Mr. EISENBERG - How were you able to conclude it is part of the nose area?
Mr. FRAZIER - Because of the rifling marks which extend part way up the side, and then have the characteristic leading edge impressions and no longer continue along the bullet, and by the fact that the bullet has a rounded contour to it which has not been mutilated.
Mr. EISENBERG - Did you examine this bullet to determine whether it had been fired from Exhibit 139 to the exclusion of all other weapons?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.
Mr. EISENBERG - What was your conclusion?
Mr. FRAZIER - This bullet fragment was fired in this rifle, 139.

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Mr. EISENBERG - Can we go back a second? I don't think I asked for admission of the bullet fragment which--Mr. Frazier identified. May I have that admitted?
Mr. McCLOY - It may be admitted.
Mr. EISENBERG - The bullet fragment will be 567 and the photograph just identified by Mr. Frazier will be 568.
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Mr. FRAZIER - This bullet fragment, Exhibit 569, was fired from this particular rifle, 139.
Mr. EISENBERG - Again to the exclusion of all other rifles?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.



http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/frazr1.htm

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2019, 04:29:43 AM »
Wrong. It is known as ''The Magic Bullet'' AKA "Bastard Bullet" and it wasn't "found" anywhere near Gov Connally even according to the Warren Report itself ::)

It's only known as "The Magic Bullet" by conspiracy types. It was found on Connally's stretcher. The Warren Report did not conclude otherwise.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2019, 04:41:44 AM »
It's only known as "The Magic Bullet" by conspiracy types. It was found on Connally's stretcher. The Warren Report did not conclude otherwise.

It was found on Connally's stretcher.

Not even that is certain. Tomlinson could not say for sure which stretcher he found it on.

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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2019, 04:52:54 AM »
It was found on Connally's stretcher.

Not even that is certain. Tomlinson could not say for sure which stretcher he found it on.

As I said earlier, the earliest statements made by those who handled the stretcher confirm that it was found on Connally's stretcher.

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2019, 05:23:10 AM »
As I said earlier, the earliest statements made by those who handled the stretcher confirm that it was found on Connally's stretcher.

Why are you being so vague? Please, be more specific. Who exactly confirmed that the bullet was found on Connally's stretcher?

How did the people "who handled the stretcher" even know on which stretcher Tomlinson found the bullet?




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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2019, 06:23:22 AM »
Why are you being so vague? Please, be more specific. Who exactly confirmed that the bullet was found on Connally's stretcher?

How did the people "who handled the stretcher" even know on which stretcher Tomlinson found the bullet?

Mr. SPECTER - You helped them take Governor Connally and put him on the operating table?
Mr. JIMISON - I did.
Mr. SPECTER - And what then was done with the stretcher that he was on?
Mr. JIMISON - Well, the stretcher at that time was moved back from the table, of course, because they had to make room for the doctors to get up close to the table, which was back just always and when I got free---whether it was Miss Wester or Mrs. Ross there---they pushed it back a little further, but they didn't get quite to the elevator with it; I came along and pushed it onto the elevator myself and loaded it on and pushed the door closed.
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Mr. SPECTER - What did you do with the stretcher then, you said?
Mr. JIMISON - Pushed it on the rear elevator, which goes downstairs.
Mr. SPECTER - Is there any other elevator which goes downstairs to the emergency area?
Mr. JIMISON - Not close in the emergency area----that's the only one.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/jimison.htm

Nurse Jane Wester said that she had rolled up a bloody sheet and left it on the stretcher and then placed some medical tools on the stretcher and asked Jimison to take the stretcher to the elevator.

In Darrell Tomlinson's earliest statement, made Dec 4,1963, he said that the bullet was on the stretcher that he had taken off of the elevator. He recalled the balled up bloody sheets, a couple of bandages, a glove, and the medical tools being on the stretcher.

https://i.imgur.com/rk20BhI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dh1nUMK.jpg

The Secret Service Agent who received the bullet from O.P. Wright recorded that the stretcher that the bullet had been found on contained medical tools and rubber gloves.

https://i.imgur.com/CIn10To.png


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Kennedy assassination bullets preserved in digital form
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2019, 06:42:10 AM »
That’s what you call a “confirmation” that it was Connally’s stretcher?