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Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #490 on: November 09, 2019, 04:22:49 PM »
Ray,

The problems is that there are two heads in some frames.

And I don't think it's "blurs" because, if you look closely at the timings and directions of the "blurs" on the rest of Lovelady's body (and on other people on the stairs, etc), you'll realize that that's not the case.

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Shhhh... Don't tell anyone, but I believe Mr Mitcham's conclusion about blurring just might be correct.

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« Reply #490 on: November 09, 2019, 04:22:49 PM »

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #491 on: November 09, 2019, 04:25:41 PM »


Thank you very much for this, Mr Davidson! (How do you always seem to have such excellent versions of footage? It's wonderful!)  Thumb1:

Now!

What we're seeing here, in greater clarity than in the version of the Wiegman frames I have been posting, is that

------------------Mr Lovelady is stationary
------------------Mr Oswald (just behind him) is moving, one assumes because he is trying to get a better look at what's going on out on the street.


The Altgens photograph is taken at or around one of the points seen above (early frames!) where Mr Oswald's head is just to the left (=our right, i.e. east!) of Mr Lovelady's head. And Altgens shows a portion of Mr Oswald's head/face:



Furthermore!

There is a lot of white t-shirt in the Oswald/Lovelady ensemble in Wiegman. Look closely and you will see that Mr Oswald appears to be wearing only his white t-shirt (no shirt!).

Had a dark vertical strip not been added to Mr Lovelady's right side, Mr Oswald's white t-shirt (and exposed right arm, and----who knows?-----maybe even a soda bottle in the right hand) would be all too evident even to a casual viewer. Which of course is why a dark vertical strip was added to Mr Lovelady's right side!

This latter observation------------Mr Oswald in a white tshirt only------------suggests that Mr Oswald is not Prayer Man in the Darnell film after all.

Which in turn means that it's perfectly possible that only one person noticed Mr Oswald in the few moments he spent out front for the motorcade:

Mr Frazier.

Like I say, what a heavy burden to have to carry. No wonder Captain Fritz hung the threat of a charge of conspiracy to murder JFK over him!
« Last Edit: November 09, 2019, 04:34:20 PM by Alan Ford »

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #492 on: November 09, 2019, 04:27:14 PM »
Thanks, Chris.

Isn't that tall Buell Wesley Frazier's head that appears briefly from behind Lovelady's head?

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #493 on: November 09, 2019, 04:31:14 PM »
Ray,

The problems is that there are two heads in some frames.

And I don't think it's "blurs" because, if you look closely at the timings and directions of the "blurs" on the rest of Lovelady's body (and on other people on the stairs, etc), you'll realize that that's not the case.

--  MWT  ;)

Right you are, Mr Graves!  Thumb1:

And ain't it funny how the one person in that doorway to whom this double-head phenomenon attaches across multiple frames just so happens to be the one person in that doorway down whom there is a non-natural dark vertical 'shadow'?

Online Royell Storing

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« Reply #494 on: November 09, 2019, 05:11:35 PM »
Right you are, Mr Graves!  Thumb1:

And ain't it funny how the one person in that doorway to whom this double-head phenomenon attaches across multiple frames just so happens to be the one person in that doorway down whom there is a non-natural dark vertical 'shadow'?

   Any person situated on that landing in front of the TSBD doorway is Not "standing in", "cloaked by" or "subject to" a Shadow.  That landing area is the equivalent of a Cave. Sunlight = Shadow(s) does Not happen.   

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« Reply #494 on: November 09, 2019, 05:11:35 PM »

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #495 on: November 09, 2019, 05:13:38 PM »
   Any person situated on that landing in front of the TSBD doorway is Not "standing in", "cloaked by" or "subject to" a Shadow.  That landing area is the equivalent of a Cave. Sunlight = Shadow(s) does Not happen.

You are of course 100% correct, Mr Storing!  Thumb1:

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« Reply #496 on: November 09, 2019, 06:08:06 PM »
Had a dark vertical strip not been added to Mr Lovelady's right side, Mr Oswald's white t-shirt (and exposed right arm, and----who knows?-----maybe even a soda bottle in the right hand) would be all too evident even to a casual viewer. Which of course is why a dark vertical strip was added to Mr Lovelady's right side!

Now! It is important to note that if the above comments pertain to the early Wiegman frames of the entranceway-------------



-------------then they pertain with bells on to the later ones, when Mr Lovelady has stepped downwards:



This is because, in thus stepping downwards, Mr Lovelady has left Mr Oswald's face (and much more besides) fully exposed not just to view but to closer view than in the previous frames, when Mr Wiegman was further from the entranceway and at more of an angle to it.

Hence even more extensive blacking out was required---it had to go higher than Mr Lovelady's head.

As long as no one worked out that Mr Lovelady couldn't possibly be in shadow like this, Mr Oswald's obliteration from the entranceway would be crudely but effectively achieved!

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« Last Edit: November 09, 2019, 06:12:27 PM by Alan Ford »

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Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #497 on: November 09, 2019, 06:23:35 PM »
Well at least it seems Alan Ford has FINALLY accepted that prayerblob is probably NOT Oswald :)
Perhaps Mr Ford can provide a sworn statement/testimony by Mr OchusVirgilCampbell affirming the Newspaper report?
Perhaps Mr Ford has ascertained, and can share, as to whom "we" is as mentioned by OV Campbell in the Newspaper reported LeeHarveyOswald sighting?
Perhaps Mr Ford can provide information as to the first time OV Campbell "saw" LeeHarveyOswald, as well as when he was first able to "recognize" him on sight?

Perhaps?

http://www.prayer-man.com/tsbd/ochus-v-campbell/#lightbox[group]/4/
http://www.prayer-man.com/tsbd/ochus-v-campbell/#lightbox[group]/6/

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« Reply #497 on: November 09, 2019, 06:23:35 PM »

Offline Brian Doyle

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« Reply #498 on: November 09, 2019, 06:37:17 PM »

Mr Ford is showing us Pauline Sanders, who is actually behind Shelley and to his east in the portal in Altgens, and calling her Oswald...

Mr Ford has absolutely no sense of perspective or credible photo analysis...

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #499 on: November 09, 2019, 07:11:40 PM »

Mr Ford is showing us Pauline Sanders, who is actually behind Shelley and to his east in the portal in Altgens, and calling her Oswald...


Brian:  Just a question, not an accusation, so don't get all defensive on me.

You're saying Alan is showing us Pauline Sanders in the blue circle?

Thanks,

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« Reply #499 on: November 09, 2019, 07:11:40 PM »

 

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