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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #483 on: November 21, 2019, 10:31:44 PM »
Thanks for you observations.

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    No problem. Let me know when you make your revisions.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #484 on: November 21, 2019, 10:40:30 PM »
    No problem. Let me know when you make your revisions.

There's nothing more to do, by definition a 3D image cannot be revised, it shows the overall structure and Lovelady's position in relation to the railing.
EDIT I'll happily make another if someone like Royell will draw in the railing.
If you want to want to make another version then go ahead, be my guest.

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« Last Edit: November 21, 2019, 11:34:18 PM by John Mytton »

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #485 on: November 21, 2019, 10:46:07 PM »
There's nothing more to do, by definition a 3D image cannot be revised, it shows the overall structure and Lovelady's position in relation to the railing.
If you want to want to make another version then go ahead, be my guest.

JohnM

     You have people stacked up behind the high end of the hand rail like chord wood. The Landing is Not that Deep. Your Mickey Mousing of the Hand Rail is exposed by the Gang of people between the High End of the rail and the glass door.
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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #486 on: November 21, 2019, 10:48:36 PM »
Thanks for summing up your stoopid theory in one sentence, Oswald was standing BEHIND Lovelady so instead of just EASILY tracing around Lovelady's silhouette and blackening out where Oswald was, they instead attempted to guess where a shadow couldn't be and then painted this mathematically accurate shadow ONTO Lovelady, in what Universe is that the least bit logical? -sigh-
It's obvious you bit off more than you could chew so to justify the shadow craziness you somehow added Oswald into equation, it must be nice to have such a vivid imagination.

I decided that while the results were pretty good by comparing two 2D images, but the best way to solve this is in 3D because using two original images from two different cameras with maybe two different lenses, you have a parallax problem it's inescapable but a side benefit is that by shifting the cameras horizontally we now have a stereo view and when viewed through 3D glasses you get an effective cool 3D image but since not many people have the necessary glasses I made a 3D GIF version, see below.



Anyway you seemed to have missed my earlier graphic which puts this issue to bed. By marrying up the relevant pixels in each video capture we can get the same 3D and we can see the depth, the only problem in this exercise is that Lovelady is only there in one frame but it's clear he's no where near the railing. Also look at Prayer Person and assuming he/she didn't move is against the wall and about a foot to a foot and a half in front of the glass, interesting.


The two screen captures come from Robin Unger's gallery, so it's the best you're going to get.

JohnM

     Bump regarding GANG between the handrail and the glass front door.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #487 on: November 21, 2019, 10:49:32 PM »
     You have people stacked up behind the high end of the hand rail like chord wood. The Landing is Not that Deep. Your Mickey Mousing of the Hand Rail is exposed by the Gang of people between the High End of the rail and the glass door. The Landing is Not that Deep.

The fact that you admitted to seeing the depth of the landing is very satisfying, thanks for all the good vibes. 
Btw since the start and end frames are defined by the actual Wiegman and Darnell frames, tell us exactly what you are seeing and are you in any way accounting for perspective?



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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #488 on: November 21, 2019, 10:51:02 PM »
     Bump regarding GANG between the handrail and the glass front door.

Hmmmm, interesting, you do realize I have no control over the people or where they moved to between being the two images, and re the handrail if you can draw in the railing in both images I'll happily make another GIF to your exact specifications, that's fair isn't it.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #489 on: November 21, 2019, 11:43:05 PM »
I decided that while the results were pretty good by comparing (~snip snip!)

 :D  :D :D

This is truly pathetic stuff, Mr Mytton, even by your abysmal standards!

Which side of the railing is the person in the blue rectangle standing on---east or west?



You know, the person who appears twice in your final gif frame!



Why does this question terrify you so much, Mr Mytton?

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