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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #64 on: January 16, 2019, 04:58:32 PM »
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You suggested that Oswald needed an alibi in case he was rounded up in a raid.  And that explains why his signature appears on that date.  That is idiotic for the reasons you apparently can't follow.  If person A is arrested at a certain place and time, then the authorities know he was at that place and time because that is when and where they took him into custody.  A person can't be two places at once.  So Oswald's signature does him no good in the silly scenario that you have proposed.  Nor does it make sense if the authorities have the capability to get him released.  You don't need an alibi if someone in charge of your incarceration is willing and able to release you.  They just arrange for his release.  Most likely his is a hoax after the fact.

You suggested that Oswald needed an alibi in case he was rounded up in a raid.  And that explains why his signature appears on that date.  That is idiotic for the reasons you apparently can't follow.  If person A is arrested at a certain place and time, then the authorities know he was at that place and time because that is when and where they took him into custody.

Psssst... Mr "Smith"...   If an undercover secret agent ( Let's say CIA) is rounded up with the criminals that he has exposed, the agency sure as hell don't want to compromise that agent by putting him on trial....  They would be prepared to make that agent be far away from the area at the time and therefore he couldn't possibly have been the person who was using the name "Oswald" in Luscome....

PS...This is simply one idea and explanation that the agency might order an agent to go to a place that registered the guests, and sign in as Lee H. Oswald....

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #65 on: January 16, 2019, 11:19:17 PM »
So Oswald's signature  .....  Most likely his is a hoax after the fact.
It would have to have been quite an elaborate hoax. Looking at that register [back on page two] there is all those other signatures and hometowns that would have to be faked and if so... to what end? I wonder if anyone ever came forward and reported that their signature was also on that same register?

Online Richard Smith

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #66 on: January 17, 2019, 02:16:54 PM »
It would have to have been quite an elaborate hoax. Looking at that register [back on page two] there is all those other signatures and hometowns that would have to be faked and if so... to what end? I wonder if anyone ever came forward and reported that their signature was also on that same register?

Who knows why people make up stuff?  Why would it have to be elaborate?  Maybe there is a blank line and someone later thought it might be amusing to write down his name there.  Maybe the entire page is a hoax.  There doesn't have to be any sinister reason.  It seems pretty clear it wasn't Oswald and there is no apparent reason in any fantasy conspiracy to put it there.  How would it advance the conspiracy cause to put Oswald's signature there?

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #67 on: January 17, 2019, 03:02:23 PM »
Who knows why people make up stuff?  Why would it have to be elaborate?  Maybe there is a blank line and someone later thought it might be amusing to write down his name there.  Maybe the entire page is a hoax.  There doesn't have to be any sinister reason.  It seems pretty clear it wasn't Oswald and there is no apparent reason in any fantasy conspiracy to put it there.  How would it advance the conspiracy cause to put Oswald's signature there?

It seems ironic that you, being the person who constantly complains about CT's believing evidence is or could be faked, now propose that this evidence is a hoax and thus faked.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #68 on: January 17, 2019, 04:10:17 PM »
Who knows why people make up stuff?  Why would it have to be elaborate?  Maybe there is a blank line and someone later thought it might be amusing to write down his name there.  Maybe the entire page is a hoax.  There doesn't have to be any sinister reason.  It seems pretty clear it wasn't Oswald and there is no apparent reason in any fantasy conspiracy to put it there.  How would it advance the conspiracy cause to put Oswald's signature there?

Maybe there is a blank line and someone later thought it might be amusing to write down his name there.  Maybe the entire page is a hoax.  There doesn't have to be any sinister reason.

That's my thinking also.... a slight possibility.   Nothing sinister, but still a good reason for putting a FORGED signature of Lee Oswald  on that register.   "Someone clearly thought that Lee Oswald might need an alibi of being at that location when in fact he was someplace else.

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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #69 on: January 17, 2019, 08:25:57 PM »
Why should we trust KGB officers and Mexican and Cuban pro-Castro bureaucrats (Duran, Azcue, and Miribal) when they say they met with ("a highly unstable") Oswald in Mexico City in late September, 1963?

Regarding the former, why should we, like naive John Newman in Oswald and the CIA (2008), trust KGB officers Nechiporenko, Yatskov, Kostikov, and, yep, that 5' 7", blond-haired, blue-eyed, very thin-faced "Third Secretary / Assistant Cultural Attache," KGB Col. Nikolai Leonov who claimed in 1992 to have met one-on-one with an emotional, revolver-packin' Oswald at the Soviet Embassy on Sunday, September 29, 1963(!; which story Newman doesn't acknowledge, as far as I know), and who could very well have been the "skinny, quite short, blond-haired, blue-eyed, elongated-faced" man who allegedly claimed to be Oswald and provided Sylvia Duran with a (probably-taken-in-Minsk) passport-sized photo of real-deal Oswald to staple to "Oswald's" Cuban Visa Application, and who also could very well have been the (good) Spanish-speaking, (naturally?) bad English-speaking, and (overly dramatic?) bad Russian-speaking person who impersonated Oswald over the phone down there?

"Because when they revealed this stuff, the Cold War was over, Tommy! That's why we should trust 'em!"

Hint:  The Cold War wasn't over as far as the Ruskies were concerned, Bucko.

"But, but, but Mudd Wrassler Tommy, what evidence do you have?"

"And, and, and ... why would those nice Russians or that nice Fidel Castro want to kill JFK, anyway?"

LOL

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Edited and bumped in an attempt to get this thread back "on topic."

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #70 on: January 18, 2019, 12:38:34 AM »
   Why would it have to be elaborate?
Seriously?

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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #71 on: January 18, 2019, 01:42:01 AM »
Richard Smith: "Why would it have to be elaborate?"
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Seriously?


Okay guys,

Shall I start a new thread for you titled, "Did Lee Harvey Oswald Go To Oak Ridge, Tennessee, in July 1963?"

Or shall I just delete this whole thread (if I can)?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

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