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The Unraveling of Richard Case Nagell
Here is a video about Richard Case Nagell. It is based upon his lawsuit to get full disability from the United States government. He eventually won his lawsuit.
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The Unraveling of Richard Case Nagell
Here is a video about Richard Case Nagell. It is based upon his lawsuit to get full disability from the United States government. He eventually won his lawsuit.
I notice the video does not explain how Nagell had the names of several CIA officers in his notebook. Anyone who claims that Nagell was insane (he most certainly was not) and that he was only a low-level counter-intel officer in the Army needs to explain how in the world he could have known the names of not one or two but six CIA officers.
Here is where my decades of intel experience gives me a broader, deeper perspective. I worked with several Army counter-intel guys. For nearly a year, my direct operational boss was an Army counter-intel guy. I got briefed at least 15 times by Army counter-intel officers/officials. I worked at two NSA sites. I worked several joint intel assignments where we had guys from several three-letter intel agencies, including the CIA. Personally, I never knew of any CIA guys who would even use their real names on assignments, and certainly not in operations. Sometimes you would not even know when someone was CIA--they would be placed under the guise of working for a different agency, and you would find out later that they were CIA.
No Army counter-intel officer working under CIC or in any other CIA-connected capacity is going to know the names of six CIA personnel. That is not going to happen. He will work with one CIA contact, maybe two on rare occasions, and he probably won't even know the CIA guy's real name.
I can assure you that it is astonishing that an Army counter-intel guy would have, much less write down, the names of six CIA personnel. That is extremely suspicious and unusual. If you don't believe me, find someone who has had a TS/SCI clearance, with caveats, and who has worked joint intel assignments, and ask them what they would think if an Army counter-intel guy had the real names of six--not two or three, but six--CIA guys, and also wrote them down, even in a private notebook. I guarantee you they will tell you that this would be extremely unusual and would indicate that the Army counter-intel guy was much more than your usual counter-intel officer.
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Michael T. Griffith can blather on all he likes about his alleged expertise. The fact of the matter is that Richard Case Nagell had absolutely no involvement in the Kennedy assassination and the evidence for his alleged activities absolutely disintegrates upon further study, as Fred Litwin has shown time and time again on his blog.
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Michael T. Griffith can blather on all he likes about his alleged expertise. The fact of the matter is that Richard Case Nagell had absolutely no involvement in the Kennedy assassination and the evidence for his alleged activities absolutely disintegrates upon further study, as Fred Litwin has shown time and time again on his blog.
Unless he's right that the Soviets really did want him to prevent Oswald from following through on his mission.
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I notice the video does not explain how Nagell had the names of several CIA officers in his notebook. Anyone who claims that Nagell was insane (he most certainly was not) and that he was only a low-level counter-intel officer in the Army needs to explain how in the world he could have known the names of not one or two but six CIA officers.
Here is where my decades of intel experience gives me a broader, deeper perspective. I worked with several Army counter-intel guys. For nearly a year, my direct operational boss was an Army counter-intel guy. I got briefed at least 15 times by Army counter-intel officers/officials. I worked at two NSA sites. I worked several joint intel assignments where we had guys from several three-letter intel agencies, including the CIA. Personally, I never knew of any CIA guys who would even use their real names on assignments, and certainly not in operations. Sometimes you would not even know when someone was CIA--they would be placed under the guise of working for a different agency, and you would find out later that they were CIA.
No Army counter-intel officer working under CIC or in any other CIA-connected capacity is going to know the names of six CIA personnel. That is not going to happen. He will work with one CIA contact, maybe two on rare occasions, and he probably won't even know the CIA guy's real name.
I can assure you that it is astonishing that an Army counter-intel guy would have, much less write down, the names of six CIA personnel. That is extremely suspicious and unusual. If you don't believe me, find someone who has had a TS/SCI clearance, with caveats, and who has worked joint intel assignments, and ask them what they would think if an Army counter-intel guy had the real names of six--not two or three, but six--CIA guys, and also wrote them down, even in a private notebook. I guarantee you they will tell you that this would be extremely unusual and would indicate that the Army counter-intel guy was much more than your usual counter-intel officer.
Is it possible he got those 6 names from the 1968 book Who's Who in CIA?
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Is it possible he got those 6 names from the 1968 book Who's Who in CIA?
Naive question.
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I notice the video does not explain how Nagell had the names of several CIA officers in his notebook.
Dear Comrade Griffith,
On 3/03/65, a CIA officer by the name of Robert J. Leonard sent a "SECRET" memo to the Chief of the (mole-hunting) Office of Security's Security Research Staff's Research Branch (C/OS/SRS/RB), probable KGB mole Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up), regarding John Richard Sloss, a CIA officer whose name was found in Nagell's notebook.
I’m unable to copy and paste the URL here, but you can find the memo by going to the Mary Ferrell Foundation and typing into the RIF search box this number: 104-10123-10035.
Here’s the unredacted part of the neatly-redacted memo:
First page:
“His name is perhaps identical with a name among six names of agency employees found on a mentally disturbed and disaffected form CIG intelligence officer who alleges contact with Russian and Cuban intelligence agents.”
The second-and-final page:
“3. The name of John Sloss may be identical with the name J. Sloss found on the person of Richard Case Nagell when arrested in connection with a bank robbery in El Paso, Texas, on 20 September 1963. A notebook found on Nagell made reference to Fair Play for Cuba Committee, the addresses of foreign embassies, the names of purported CIA agents and other information. Although Nagell is unquestionably mentally unbalanced, he tells a story of being involved in espionage which is not fully contradicted by evidence. There is no apparent explanation of why the name J. Sloss as well as five other names of CIA personnel should have been in the possession of Richard Case Nagell. The weird story of Nagell is contained in a chronological listing of his activities appended to this this memorandum.”
-- Tom
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The following is an article written in 2018 by Richard Russell, author of The Man Who Knew Too Much.
My comments are in brackets.
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Why would a man who knew Lee Harvey Oswald and had apparent connections to intelligence walk into a bank, shoot two holes in a wall, and await arrest months prior to JFK’s assassination? There is no better alibi than being in federal prison.
On September 20, 1963, two months before President John F. Kennedy was gunned down in Dallas, a highly decorated Army veteran named Richard Case Nagell walked into a bank in El Paso, fired two shots into a wall from a revolver, and went outside to await arrest. There was speculation, even by the officer who put him in handcuffs, that for some reason he wanted to be locked up. Nagell was charged with attempted bank robbery. Only later would he indicate to the FBI that he feared being implicated in an “inimical act” — one that involved accused JFK assassin Lee Harvey Oswald.
Nagell would end up serving more than four years in federal prisons following two trials presided over by Judge Homer Thornberry — a close friend of new President Lyndon Johnson, who suddenly resigned a congressional seat to take over the Nagell case early in 1964. Following Nagell’s release from Leavenworth Penitentiary in April 1968, he quickly obtained a passport, left the country, and traveled to East Germany. There he was removed from a train and held behind the “Iron Curtain” for another four months, until being returned to US intelligence officials at the Berlin border.
What could be known of Nagell’s strange saga was featured in my book on the Kennedy assassination, The Man Who Knew Too Much. Now recent releases from the National Archives of long-withheld CIA and FBI assassination-related files shed new light on Nagell, and on which branches of the CIA had the strongest interest in him.
A 220-page CIA Office of Security file on Nagell — including a section on “Alleged Connection with Lee Harvey Oswald” — raises more new questions than it answers. A primary responsibility of the Office of Security (OS) is the protection of classified material. Upon his arrest prior to the assassination, Nagell had suggested that the FBI look in the trunk of his car. Besides a small Minolta spy camera and other items, it contained a notebook. According to the just-released OS file, the contents included “what purport to be various codes, CIA and FBI agents’ names, Soviet and other Communist embassy addresses and names, and the addresses of various other people and organizations, including the Los Angeles address of the ‘Fair Play for Cuba Committee.’”
Lee Harvey Oswald had set up a Fair Play for Cuba Committee chapter in New Orleans in the summer of 1963. His own notebook, found at the time of his arrest after the assassination, had other similar listings to Nagell’s — including the telephone number for the Cuban Embassy in Mexico City. Nagell’s notebook designated the same phone number — 11-28-47.
The CIA’s OS file makes no mention of these similarities. Indeed, the OS goes out of its way to portray Nagell as a mentally disturbed individual, while at the same time conducting an extensive investigation into six names listed under “CIA” in Nagell’s notebook. Each name had a check mark beside it. One was “J. Sloss,” who the OS concluded was likely John Richard Sloss, a longtime employee with the Agency’s Senior [sic; Security] Research Staff. According to a March 3, 1965 memo [emphasis added; see my previous post on this 3/03/65 memo, above] to the OS from the Chief of the Research Branch, Sloss had been “granted a ‘Q’ Clearance in October 1963” — higher than Top Secret — while subsequently being polygraphed in 1964 “regarding giving CIA documents or classified information to unauthorized persons [and] contact with a possible Communist sympathizer.”
Sloss’s name has never come up in connection with the assassination, but his appearance in Nagell’s notebook certainly adds credence to the likelihood that Nagell was engaged in intelligence-gathering activities. The OS file goes on to describe Nagell’s having walked into the American Embassy in Mexico City in the fall of 1962, saying that he wanted to renounce his citizenship. Three autumns earlier, ex-Marine Oswald had done the same thing in Moscow in an alleged “defection” with radar secrets to the Soviet Union, where he remained until the summer of 1962. The OS document on Nagell cites an FBI interview with Fred Morton, the district attorney in the El Paso bank case, that Nagell also “allegedly turned over secret material to Soviet agents while in the Military Service.”
So the pattern of both their lives make it appear that Oswald and Nagell were staunch leftists and even enemies of the state. But were they? Or was something else going on? According to a not-previously-seen CIA interview about Nagell with a Colonel Ned Glenn (March 24, 1964), the colonel and Nagell had in the 1950s both been attached “to an Intelligence Branch of the United States Army in the Far East.” Nagell was “a member of the US Army Counterintelligence Corps in Japan,” designated as the 3rd Operations Group, until “terminating in about 1958.”
That was the same timeframe when Oswald served as a Marine radar operator at the Atsugi Naval Air base in Japan. Nagell told this author in 1975 that he’d had a “purposeful, but casual acquaintance” with Oswald while both were stationed there.
FBI files released some years ago had cryptic references to a Nagell-Oswald relationship, and are quoted anew in the OS document. On December 19, 1963, Nagell had “advised Special Agents of the El Paso Office of the FBI that ‘for the record’ he would like to say that his association with LEE HARVEY OSWALD was purely social and that he had met OSWALD in Mexico City and in Texas.” (Nagell’s arrest outside the bank preceded Oswald’s alleged trip to Mexico City a week later; if accurate, Nagell would have been referring to an earlier sojourn).
Then, on January 2, 1964, Nagell advised agents of both the FBI and Secret Service “that he had been acquainted with MARINA, the wife of LEE HARVEY OSWALD. Subject further pointed out that OSWALD was having marital difficulties with Marina.” The Secret Service is on record as having interviewed Marina Oswald about Nagell, but no transcript or notes are known to exist — only the FBI’s assertion that a photo of Nagell was shown to her, and that she supposedly said she’d never seen him before.
The OS file also describes an FBI report of an earlier meeting Nagell had had with Bureau agents in Miami, on January 24, 1963: “Subject stated he wished to be advised if he was given a pistol with a silencer and possibly some microfilm by sources — Cuban, Russian or both — from Mexico City through a Cuban in Miami — if he would be permitted to return these items to his contact so he could be of further use to the United States Government … He gave the impression that he was better at determining what the enemy is up to than the agencies regularly handling these matters, except the FBI.” Nagell also “claimed he had the names of all Americans involved in activities against the United States in a safe deposit box, the key to which he gave to a close friend in the event of his death.”
So the Nagell files also point to his involvement in some kind of counterintelligence (CI) operation, one that could well have overlapped with Oswald. Indeed, a number of other newly released files, pertaining to Nagell’s mysterious 1968 arrest in East Germany upon release from prison, bear routing initials of “CI,” a subject we will take up in Part 2 of this article.
While the OS release on Nagell contains no smoking guns, it’s obvious he was far more than a “lone nut” whose temporary insanity brought about his arrest outside the El Paso bank. That defense, upheld by a US appellate court, would eventually be the basis of his release — after Judge Homer Thornberry had sentenced Nagell to the maximum ten years, oddly enough “with the provision he may be released at any time the U.S. Bureau of Prisons decides.”
According to the CIA’s Office of Security, “A ten-year prison sentence does seem harsh,” although “NAGELL’s complaint that he was ‘salted away’ is open to speculation.” The same previously classified file adds: “His story of being involved in espionage is not fully contradicted by evidence.”
That evidence, briefly mentioned in the OS material, includes an article that appeared in the El Paso Times (January 27, 1964) concerning Nagell’s arraignment for attempted bank robbery. It was headlined: “Suspect Says Agents Asked Him About Oswald, Activities Link.” According to the article, Nagell “said he had been questioned by the FBI and the US Secret Service, regarding alleged subversive activities and also Lee Harvey Oswald … Nagell’s assertions came when he was attempting to have some documents and photographs returned to him.”
They never were. Judge Thornberry, President Johnson’s close friend, apparently made sure of that.
https://whowhatwhy.org/politics/government-integrity/avoid-linked-jfk-assassination-get-locked/
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I notice the video does not explain how Nagell had the names of several CIA officers in his notebook. Anyone who claims that Nagell was insane (he most certainly was not) and that he was only a low-level counter-intel officer in the Army needs to explain how in the world he could have known the names of not one or two but six CIA officers.
Here is where my decades of intel experience gives me a broader, deeper perspective. I worked with several Army counter-intel guys. For nearly a year, my direct operational boss was an Army counter-intel guy. I got briefed at least 15 times by Army counter-intel officers/officials. I worked at two NSA sites. I worked several joint intel assignments where we had guys from several three-letter intel agencies, including the CIA. Personally, I never knew of any CIA guys who would even use their real names on assignments, and certainly not in operations. Sometimes you would not even know when someone was CIA--they would be placed under the guise of working for a different agency, and you would find out later that they were CIA.
No Army counter-intel officer working under CIC or in any other CIA-connected capacity is going to know the names of six CIA personnel. That is not going to happen. He will work with one CIA contact, maybe two on rare occasions, and he probably won't even know the CIA guy's real name.
I can assure you that it is astonishing that an Army counter-intel guy would have, much less write down, the names of six CIA personnel. That is extremely suspicious and unusual. If you don't believe me, find someone who has had a TS/SCI clearance, with caveats, and who has worked joint intel assignments, and ask them what they would think if an Army counter-intel guy had the real names of six--not two or three, but six--CIA guys, and also wrote them down, even in a private notebook. I guarantee you they will tell you that this would be extremely unusual and would indicate that the Army counter-intel guy was much more than your usual counter-intel officer.
MG: I notice the video does not explain how Nagell had the names of several CIA officers in his notebook.
It's not actually clear if any of the names in Nagell's list are those of CIA personnel. He listed "F. Parker," "Mrs Guthries," "C. Churchill," "J. Sloss," "E. Leibacher," "J. Davanon," as well as "Richard Fecteau."
Richard Fecteau was indeed a CIA agent, who had the bad luck of being captured by the Communist Chinese government in the early '50's during a botched infiltration attempt. Fecteau's captivity was well publicized: China prosecuted him and sentenced him to 20 years for spying. His case was widely known long before Nagell was arrested in 1963.
Of the rest, the CIA was able people to find associated with the agency whose names were similar to those found in Nagell's notebook and who might have been in position to have come across him at some point, but was unable to determine whether or not any of then were actually a match. An initial and last name aren't a lot to go on when you're talking about an agency as large as the CIA. The CIA did not that they did have two employees named Ernst Leibacker and Joseph Francis Davanon working out of the Los Angeles Domestic Contact Service field office in the early 1960's, when Nagell was living in the LA area. The DCS was an inherently public-facing operation, so their names being in his notes would not be particularly eyebrow raising if they are indeed the same people in his notes.
Fecteau was CIA, but everyone knew that by 1963. Of the others, some, all, or none might have actually been associated with the Agency.
As for your own experiences, just because it was that way where you were working when you worked there does not mean that things were handled that way at other operations in the 50's and early 60's.
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MG: I notice the video does not explain how Nagell had the names of several CIA officers in his notebook.
It's not actually clear if any of the names in Nagell's list are those of CIA personnel. He listed "F. Parker," "Mrs Guthries," "C. Churchill," "J. Sloss," "E. Leibacher," "J. Davanon," as well as "Richard Fecteau."
Richard Fecteau was indeed a CIA agent, who had the bad luck of being captured by the Communist Chinese government in the early '50's during a botched infiltration attempt. Fecteau's captivity was well publicized: China prosecuted him and sentenced him to 20 years for spying. His case was widely known long before Nagell was arrested in 1963.
Of the rest, the CIA was able people [sic] to find associated with the agency whose names were similar to those found in Nagell's notebook and who might have been in position to have come across him at some point but was unable to determine whether or not any of then were actually a match. An initial and last name aren't a lot to go on when you're talking about an agency as large as the CIA. The CIA did not [sic] that they did have two employees named Ernst Leibacker and Joseph Francis Davanon working out of the Los Angeles Domestic Contact Service field office in the early 1960's, when Nagell was living in the LA area. The DCS was an inherently public-facing operation, so their names being in his notes would not be particularly eyebrow raising, if they are indeed the same people in his notes.
Fecteau was CIA, but everyone knew that by 1963. Of the others, some, all, or none might have actually been associated with the Agency.
As for your own experiences, just because it was that way where you were working when you worked there does not mean that things were handled that way at other operations in the 50's and early 60's.
See my earlier posts on J. Sloss.
Regarding your comment, ". . . if they are indeed the same people in his notes," Ernst Leibacker and Joseph Francis Davanon are unusual names, wouldn't you agree?
What's the probability that they just happened to have the same names of two LA CIA officers, but, in reality, were just too guys Nagell happened to know at his favorite bar or from his bowling league?