Reclaiming Misery aka Reclaiming History

[Ray Mitcham]

Did you even read what I said?  Frazier, himself, admitted that he wasn't really paying much attention to how O was carrying the rifle, therefore, Frazier may not have seen the rifle sticking above O's shoulder!  When you Oswald sympathizers can come up with  proof that it wasn't O's rifle, get back with us, until then, all you have to go by is two people GUESSING  at the length of the package, Oswald telling Frazier that the package was curtain rods, when no curtain rods were ever found at the sixth floor window where the brown paper was discovered with O's prints on it.  The bullet fragments and whole bullet were fired from O's rifle, to the exclusion of all other rifles in the world.  All you have to offer is speculation regarding all these points.  Speculation is not proof.

Speculation is what you are doing about where the bag was supposedly found. No photo of it in situ in the so called sniper nest, and numerous officers missing seeing it. And nobody admits to picking the bag up. Tell us who admitted picking the bag up, Steve.

[Ray Mitcham]

On November 22, 1963!  Whether you accept it or not, you have no proof that it wasn't his rifle. NONE!

We have no proof it wasn't yours. How do you prove a negative? Prove it was his.

[Jerry Freeman]

 
    Conveyance of a disassembled rifle is a catchy subject in itself.
There was no exhibit of the broken down into it's components MC rifle...how many pieces there would be...tools required to reassemble ...were any such tools found? Why utilize a scope when it would obviously not have been sighted in properly? 
All and all there is something sloppy about the whole idea of 'smuggled' in segments of weapon... unseen by anyone and then to where?

[Jerry Freeman]

On page 40 of Bugliosi's verbose novel he recounts the witness who "clearly" saw the rifleman in action.
Howard Brennen "looks up. The man he saw earlier in the sixth floor window is aiming a rifle straight down Elm St. Brennen sees him from the waist up in awful clarity..the rifle braced against his right shoulder as he leans against the left window jamb..the gunman's motions are deliberate and without panic. After a few seconds he fires again."

Vince added all of this loquacious text I suppose to make his book thicker and appear more grandiose.

Who ever said 'you can't make this stuff up'?
The only view that I can possibly see based on Brennen's desciption [according to Vince] would be from the waist down to the knees as --if the gunman was standing..that's all you would see utilizing the appearance of that window.
It would be that.. or the gunman shut the window down really quickly.
Bugliosi wrote Reclaiming [the Myth] in 2007 and after all that time he didn't check into this account and see it as being just simply a physical impossibility.



 

[John Iacoletti]

Thanks, Steve, for Piper's "lineup" reference.

Piper, however, was talking about the POLICE conducting that "lineup", not Roy Truly or Bill Shelley of the TSBD staff.

I agree.  That's not a roll call.  The police would have been gathering witness names and addresses (something they were supposed to have done in the Texas Theater too) not seeing who was missing.

If there really had been a roll call, wouldn't Truly have remembered it too?  And if there had really been a roll call they would have known that Oswald was not the only one missing.

[John Iacoletti]

Are you positive that Buell & his sister didn't bs about the size of the bag in a CYA move to lessen the chances of Buell winding up frying as an accomplice?

Now who's calling Frazier a liar?

[Bill Chapman]

Now who's calling Frazier a liar?

I give it a high probability given the circumstances in which Bueller found himself that day. Lying would be the smart move if the bag was seen to be big enough to carry a rifle.