Reclaiming Misery aka Reclaiming History

[Brian Walker]

Would this be the same Buell Frazier who also said that Oswald carried the paper bag in the cup of his hand and under his armpit?

He said it on day one and is still saying it to this day?..

So why accept something he said once in 2002 about a roll call and not what he said from day one?

He said in the 1986 trial that there was a roll call also.  He also said he didn't pay much attention to the rifle and could have been mistaken about how Oswald carried it. 3:40 and 4:00.

The fact that you are actually comparing the reliability of remembering exactly how someone was carrying a rifle ( that you admit you barely paid attention to ) to remembering whether or not you were in a roll call shows once again you lack critical thinking skills. That is what this case if all about. I didn't didn't read much of the thread yet but I am guessing you or one of Oswald's other defense lawyers will also try to compare remembering you were involved in a roll call to guessing the size of a package.

[Colin Crow]

Buell managed to not be included with those taken to HQ that afternoon. Fritz instructed Stengel to gather up all those who worked on the 6th floor that day for questioning. Frazier managed to avoid that somehow.....he sure looked suspicious given his association with the prime suspect. Got him a job, gave him a lift, disappeared after the shooting.....some hot water there for sure.

[Bill Brown]

OK David on the roll call stuff...Bugliosi states that Oswald was the only one who had left the building therefore implicating his guilt.
If Oswald was in such an all-fired hurry to get out of there, why did he [supposedly] stop off at the soda machine and grab something to drink?

Perhaps to avoid the men who he heard coming up the stairs from the first floor to the second floor, or at the very least, have a reason to be there (pretend to be thirsty, wanted a soda) since it became obvious to him that he probably wasn't going to be able to avoid these men, whoever they may be (Truly and Baker).

You really don't understand the very simple concept of one beginning to make his way down from the second floor to the first floor and then, upon hearing men coming up those very steps, deciding to enter the vestibule leading to the lunch room pretending as if that was his destination all along (versus going down to the first floor on his way to leaving the building)?

[Bill Brown]

VB "Oswald was a marksman in the Marines"
 Oswald obtained a sharpshooters badge in 1956. So what? This made  him a deadly sniper for life? With a score of 212 that is nearly the bare minimum for Marine qualification.

Key word there... "qualification".

Oswald indeed qualified.  That means he passed.  Right?

[Bill Brown]

Would this be the same Buell Frazier who also said that Oswald carried the paper bag in the cup of his hand and under his armpit?

He said it on day one and is still saying it to this day?..

So why accept something he said once in 2002 about a roll call and not what he said from day one?

He said in the 1986 trial that there was a roll call also.  He also said he didn't pay much attention to the rifle and could have been mistaken about how Oswald carried it. 3:40 and 4:00.

The fact that you are actually comparing the reliability of remembering exactly how someone was carrying a rifle ( that you admit you barely paid attention to ) to remembering whether or not you were in a roll call shows once again you lack critical thinking skills.

[Bill Brown]

-- 2500 days ago
You think he had enough practice to maintain that on 11/22?

But, that wasn't the point of the post which I was addressing.  Was it?

The point that I was addressing was that Oswald's score of 212 was "the bare minimum for Marine qualification", as if that score of 212 somehow demeans the very simple FACT that Oswald indeed qualified.

[John Mytton]

-- 2500 days ago
You think he had enough practice to maintain that on 11/22?

Oswald was rusty and missed the headshot twice whereas a professional assassin would only need one shot.



JohnM