What happened to the Mauser?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2018, 01:57:26 PM »
And from the biography it states " Craig worked for the Purex Corporation before joining the Dallas Police Department in 1959. He was named Man of the Year by the sheriff's office in 1960 for his work in aid in helping to capture an international jewel chief. He had a successful career in the DPD and was promoted four times". 

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Who thinks this gun at the beginning  looks like the scoped Mannlicher-Carcano with sling that is held up later in this same short film ? Of course, it could be some more crackerjack detective work...you know, why hold it by the sling and have a scope when you can just grab the gun with your hand.

Mr Brazell....If you are unable to identify the rifle that Lt Day pulls from beneath the boxes of books, as a model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano then you probably would benefit by going to Wiki and learning what a Carcano looks like.

Online Mitch Todd

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2018, 04:16:39 PM »
First,I know you'll want to comment on the CIA memos of 11-25 & 11-28-63 stating the gun was in fact a 7.35 Mauser(25th) and that the press reports indicating the gun was a Mannlicher-Carcano " ARE IN ERROR"(28th). What a crackerjack job of crime solving....case wrapped up in 24 hours but THREE and even SIX days later the CIA is disputing the Mannlicher Carcano as being the gun.

So where did the CIA get their information? AFAIK, Mauser never made a 7.35mm rifle. That caliber is well-associated with the Carcano, however. Italy was in the process of moving to 7.35 from 6.5 when WWI broke out, and went back to 6.5 as an expediency. Most 7.35 Caracanos then in existence were converted to 6.5, and the rest of the 7.35s were issued to rear echelon and other second-line troops.

And from the biography it states " Craig worked for the Purex Corporation before joining the Dallas Police Department in 1959. He was named Man of the Year by the sheriff's office in 1960 for his work in aid in helping to capture an international jewel chief. He had a successful career in the DPD and was promoted four times". 

Craig didn't work for the DPD. He was a deputy Sherriff.


Lastly, Alyea film :


Who thinks this gun at the beginning  looks like the scoped Mannlicher-Carcano with sling that is held up later in this same short film ? Of course, it could be some more crackerjack detective work...you know, why hold it by the sling and have a scope when you can just grab the gun with your hand.

It does look like the rifle held up later in the film. And if you can't tell that the rifle that Day is holding at the end of the clip is a Carcano, well, I just don't know what to tell you.

Offline Steve Logan

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2018, 04:29:38 PM »
I get a chuckle out of the fact that in spite of no shots being fired from the 6th floor , those dumbass conspirators actually planted TWO different rifles up there. Now if that ain't brilliant.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2018, 05:37:09 PM »
So the plan was to link Oswald to a MC rifle but then use a Mauser to assassinate JFK?  And they left both a Mauser and MC rifle in the TSBD but the shots were fired from the Grassy Knoll?  LOL.  Assume the fetal position in some dark place and try to give that some thought in the context of a plan to frame Oswald.  See if you can think of any logical inconsistencies.  In every high profile investigation there are misstatements made in the initial stages.  That is why investigators largely tend not to discuss ongoing cases anymore.  Unfortunately, in an effort to be transparent the DPD made some misstatements that CTers cling to with pedantic desperation to this day in lieu of any actual evidence to support their fantasy.

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2018, 05:53:45 PM »
According to the original Mentesana film seen by Jim Garrison it was a rifle brought down from the roof and it had no scope on it.
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And that film is no longer available?

Offline Denis Morissette

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2018, 08:19:35 PM »
According to the original Mentesana film seen by Jim Garrison it was a rifle brought down from the roof and it had no scope on it.
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And that film is no longer available?

Garrison must have been smoking when he saw a rifle being brought down. One more proof he was crazy.

Offline Steve Logan

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2018, 11:56:53 PM »
Did any PO put a mark on that rifle before it left TSBD?
anybody know?

I'm pretty sure once Day took possession he figured why should he . Reading his testimony I get out of it that no one did. He most likely put his id on at the station.