What happened to the Mauser?

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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2018, 04:16:39 AM »
Was Roger Craig a liar?

He says he saw "7.65 Mauser" stamped on the barrel of the rifle that was found....

Was he lying?


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Online John Mytton

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2018, 04:22:59 AM »
Was Roger Craig a liar?





Back in 2008 John Simkin posted an e-mail he'd received from Michelle
Palmer, nee Deanna Craig, daughter of Roger Craig:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=3556&st=30


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John Simkin, on Jun 13 2008, 05:26 PM, said:
Email from Roger Craig's daughter:

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There are a few items in your article about Roger Craig you just might
want to correct for the sake of accuracy and truth in reporting. i) His
marriage didn't end due to repeated harassment or threats - unless you
count his repeated threats to end his own life. ii) The man was disturbed.
As his daughter I would place money on the fact that he suffered from
either Borderline Personality Disorder or Bi-polar depression. Those last
two attempts on his life? The husband of the woman he was fooling around
with. Trust me, I met her AND her daughters before the bastard killed
himself. The husband met him at the door with that shoulder shot.

Articles like yours only serve to continue the myth. My father was a
disturbed man. I'm not disputing that what he thought he saw was something
different than what was reported. But let's face it, my dad didn't know a
Mauser from a whatever. He was a Wisconsin farmboy who joined the army
illegally, and was released from duty because he kept injuring himself - I
note you don't mention all the self-inflicted scars from his tour of duty.
Furthermore, it is EXACTLY this kind of dramatic license that killed my
father. It fed his disease. It fed his paranoia. And in the end, it
contributed to his self-destruction. You should be ashamed of yourself for
perpetuating this garbage.

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On a related note, Michelle Palmer responds to a book review that
mentioned her dad:

http://www.thesnipenews.com/books-comics/books-vancouver/jfk-and-the-unspeakable-review/


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Book review ? JFK and the Unspeakable

- by Adrian Mack

James Douglass? book JFK and the Unspeakable is subtitled ?Why He
Died, and Why It Matters?.

[...]

Dallas County Deputy sheriff Roger Craig has long been one of the most
credible, and certainly most tragic witnesses in this area. Shortly after
the shooting, in Dealey Plaza, Craig saw either Oswald or his double climb
into a green Rambler station wagon driven by a ?husky looking Latin.?
Craig then encountered Oswald during his interrogation at the Dallas
Police HQ, where Douglass writes, ?It was too late ? for both the
government and Roger Craig. Deputy Sheriff Craig had seen and heard too
much.?

As an insider, Craig bore witness to a number of things that cause the
official story to unravel, and he talked. His career was destroyed by his
refusal to recant his own testimony. After a number of attempts on his
life, one of which left him disabled, Craig reportedly committed suicide
in 1975.

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One Response to JFK and the Unspeakable ? book review

Michelle Palmer says:
July 5, 2009 at 8:28 pm

Bullshit. You are ALL so full of it. Roger Craig was unstable from
childhood. His suicide had more to do with his own mental illness (and
being sucked into the GD conspiracy crap) than anything to do with JFK?s
actual death.

I am his child. I knew him. I knew the people who used him to promote
their theories. You are ALL full of it.

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Dave Reitzes

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.assassination.jfk/3-PfhXeqrj0%5B1-25%5D



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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2018, 04:45:32 AM »
Noted in an earlier post...Roger Craig was not the only one that mentioned a Mauser rifle.
 From the preceding post---
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Bullshit. You are ALL so full of it. Roger Craig was unstable from
childhood. I am his child. I knew him. I knew the people who used him to promote
their theories. You are ALL full of it.

How could Craig's daughter know that he was "unstable from childhood"?
She couldn't have known him then ::)
Quite odd. With the tone of that above statement..who actually was the unstable one?
Until the assassination deal...he was an accredited law enforcement officer.
 
I doubt that she genuinely knew very many researchers. 

Offline Jim Brazell

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2018, 05:49:54 AM »
Noted in an earlier post...Roger Craig was not the only one that mentioned a Mauser rifle.
 From the preceding post---
How could Craig's daughter know that he was "unstable from childhood"?
She couldn't have known him then ::)
Quite odd. With the tone of that above statement..who actually was the unstable one?
Until the assassination deal...he was an accredited law enforcement officer.
 
I doubt that she genuinely knew very many researchers.

Roger Craig was named Man Of The Year by the Sheriff's office in 1960. Craig NEVER recanted his testimony about the 7.65 Mauser being stamped "right on the barrel". As a newbie here, I notice that the LNs here constantly divert on every subject ? Why ? Their case will not hold water.So, let's not get diverted...the question is not so much can you believe Craig(I do) and is he lying but rather can you believe the CIA ? Are they lying ? I put in my video above (see from 12:00 to 14:00) the CIA Memorandum about the gun being a 7.35 Mauser(25th) and the statement that the press reports of the gun being a Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5 "IS IN ERROR".

Here is the thing...LNs use the Government (CIA in this case,FBI, SS,DPD etc)...the very rogue element used to not only do the crime but cover it up. Then when you quote their sources, they jump to Roger Craig's credibility. The question here is the CIA's credibility. In the overall argument of the JFK assassination,one only need prove that there was more than one planner or shooter or a financier, more than 3 bullets(counting the Tague bullet) which is 
is unbelievably easy. The Katzenbach memo stating that the public needs to be convinced that Oswald did it and that he acted alone should have been plenty enough to cause a red flag. Further, Jack Ruby stating that if Adlai Stevenson was still in office, our beloved President Kennedy would never have been assassinated. When asked to elaborate, he states simply "The answer is the man in office now" (LBJ). In summary, there are lies and there are damn lies.     
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Online Mitch Todd

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2018, 06:27:54 AM »
Roger Craig was named Man Of The Year by the Sheriff's office in 1960.

IIRC, that was awarded by a police booster organization, the Dallas Traffic Commission, not the Sherriff's Dept. And it was for his work on a single case.


Craig NEVER recanted his testimony about the 7.65 Mauser being stamped "right on the barrel".

Whaddaya mean??? He didn't start saying that until 1973. He didn't even see fit to include it in his 1971 monograph, "When They Kill a President." In '68, he told one LA alternaweekly that the 6th floor rifle was a Carcano, but the Mauser was found on the roof.




Offline Denis Morissette

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2018, 07:15:51 AM »
People have been discussed this on the web for 2 decades. The issue was resolved more than 50 years ago!

Offline Jim Brazell

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2018, 07:38:29 AM »
And from the biography it states " Craig worked for the Purex Corporation before joining the Dallas Police Department in 1959. He was named Man of the Year by the sheriff's office in 1960 for his work in aid in helping to capture an international jewel chief. He had a successful career in the DPD and was promoted four times". 

Lastly, Alyea film :


Who thinks this gun at the beginning  looks like the scoped Mannlicher-Carcano with sling that is held up later in this same short film ? Of course, it could be some more crackerjack detective work...you know, why hold it by the sling and have a scope when you can just grab the gun with your hand.
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