What happened to the Mauser?

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Offline Mike Orr

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #189 on: July 10, 2018, 03:48:56 AM »
On what day did the Mauser turn into a Carcano ? We know it had to be at least a day and a 1/2. Your boys on the 6th floor messed up that day except for Roger Craig . To bad that Wietzman changed his story. If you went against the main story of Oswald as the lone nut assassin then the chances of you getting to breathe a little longer were null and void. Now tell me again why JD Tippit stopped at Oswalds rooming house and honked the horn ? What would Ruby have told the WC if they had taken him back to Washington DC. I wonder if it would have been some of the same words that Ruby told Dorothy Kilgallen right before she was found dead and of course Dorothy's best friend was found dead just a few days later. What a coincidence ! What are the chances ? It was a Mauser ! Get over it .

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #190 on: July 10, 2018, 02:21:54 PM »
sorry walt without any actual evidence of above --and I see none
I just can't go there

Have you seen the FBI report?    I believe the agents name was Anderson.... and he quotes Weitzman as Weitzman describes a 7.65 mauser.    Now what the hell was the idea behind handing Weitzman a mauser and then recording Weitzman's description of that mauser?

That FBI report has been posted on this forum..... 


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #191 on: July 10, 2018, 05:04:39 PM »
That report was about events on November 22. Only you have made it about November 23. More distortion.

Rob, Why don't you take a trip to Hell.....  And come back with documentation that PROVES ( absolutely PROVES) that Weitzman examined a mauser on November 22, 1963, in the presence of the FBI agent.

Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #192 on: July 10, 2018, 07:00:34 PM »
actually it is agent Sayers
and Weitzman is describing [in detail] the 7.65 rifle found in TSBD 11/22



Unless the reader follows the narrative closely, it can seem as though Weitzman held and described the rifle to FBI agent Sayers on 11/23... But no, this report was made the next day (11/23), about events that happened mostly on the sixth floor the previous day (11/22).

Weitzman observed the rifle on 11/22, according to the FBI report, and he described it as a Mauser 7.65 on 11/23....
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Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #193 on: July 10, 2018, 08:37:19 PM »
Maybe this beating a dead horse, but occasionally it might be nice to see what facts we agree on In regard to the Curry holding a rifle over his head to the press and the film shot of Fritz handling a weapon seems to be unarguably the MC That does not automatically lead to the notion that a second rifle was there and was the source of the confusion That option seems unlikely unless virtually everyone involved was in on a plan to create two different story-lines available to them.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #194 on: July 10, 2018, 08:38:31 PM »
Unless the reader follows the narrative closely, it can seem as though Weitzman held and described the rifle to FBI agent Sayers on 11/23... But no, this report was made the next day (11/23), about events that happened mostly on the sixth floor the previous day (11/22).

Weitzman observed the rifle on 11/22, according to the FBI report, and he described it as a Mauser 7.65 on 11/23....

Thank you for posting the FBI report....  It is dated 11/23/63.    Here's a question for you...Do you have more faith in the FBI report or your own God given eyes?

There are dozens of photos that show Lt Day with the MANNLICHER CARCANO at thje TSBD that afternoon.

Weitzman said that he left the TSBD shortly after the rifle ( a model 91/38 Mannlicher  carcano ) was picked up by Detective Day. So WHEN  on November 22 would he have examined a mauser in the TSBD????

PS.....   Rob jumped in and started arguing .....Please let him try to defend his statements......
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #195 on: July 11, 2018, 12:34:56 AM »
You are the one that has uttered one false claim after another. You are distorting the evidence in an effort to hide what it really shows. Your feeble attempts are NOT helping the WC's claim.

Your feeble attempts are NOT helping the WC's claim.

But Robbie.....Isn't it your belief that I'm a WC supporter, and a  LNer ??

Weitzman could NOT have examined a mauser in the TSBD that afternoon.....  He left the building shortly after Dectective Day picked up the Mannlicber Carcano.... So he could NOT have examined a mauser on November 22nd.  But I'm sure that he DID in fact examine a mauser just as described in that FBI report. 

Rob it's a pity that you allow your bias to blind you to facts .....

The authorities were up to some nefarious scheme when they had Weitzman examine a mauser....