Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2496 on: June 06, 2021, 12:01:09 AM »
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One more time for you;

Mr. BALL - On Thursday afternoon when you went home, drove on home, did he carry any package with him?
Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; he didn't
Mr. BALL - Did he have a jacket or coat on him?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL - What kind of a jacket or coat did he have?
Mr. FRAZIER - That, you know, like I say gray jacket.
Mr. BALL - That same gray jacket?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir. Now, I can be frank with you, I had seen him wear that jacket several times...

Frazier testifies that Oswald was wearing the grey jacket on Thursday night and you accept that.
But in the very same piece of testimony Frazier states that Oswald was wearing exactly the same jacket Friday morning and that he is familiar with this jacket. But you don't accept that.

You cannot get away from the Tinfoli mentality required to pull that off.

Why do you keep repeating this insignificant part of Frazier's testimony, when I have just shown you that it is getting you nowhere.

Even if Oswald wore CE 162 to the TSBD that morning, how come CE 163 was found there and how did CE 162 get to the rooming house, when there is no evidence whatsoever that Oswald left the TSBD wearing a jacket?

Officer Baker only saw a brown shirt during the lunchroom encounter
Mrs Reid, the last person to see Oswald as he was walking towards the front door only saw a shirt
Mrs Bledsoe claimed she saw a hole in a shirt sleeve, which she could not have seen if Oswald was wearing a jacket

McWatters did say he saw a man wearing a jacket but he could not identify him as Oswald

Whaley, in his early statements, did not mention seeing a jacket (as pointed out by Bill Brown)
And Mrs Roberts said Oswald was only wearing a shirt when he entered the rooming house.

So, genius, how did CE 162 get from the TSBD to the rooming house?

The next time you think you have something of substance to offer, think again... and again... and again, because now you're only making a fool of yourself.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2497 on: June 06, 2021, 01:11:15 AM »
Bottom line: Whaley ID'd Oswald as the passenger he hauled to Beckley. Roberts stated that Oswald came in with no jacket and left zipping one up. Markham stated that Oswald was wearing a jacket when she saw him shoot Tippit. In addition, a same-style/colour jacket was discarded under a car not far from the Tippit ambush scene. Oswald just happens to not be seen in a jacket again, including by Brewer nor in the TT.

Oswald would fry.
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2498 on: June 06, 2021, 01:20:23 AM »
Bottom line: Whaley ID'd Oswald as the passenger he hauled to Beckley. Roberts stated that Oswald came in with no jacket and left zipping one up. Markham stated that Oswald was wearing a jacket when she saw him shoot Tippit. In addition, a same-style/colour jacket was discarded under a car not far from the Tippit ambush scene. Oswald just happens to not be seen in a jacket again, including by Brewer nor in the TT.

Oswald would fry.

Roberts stated that Oswald came in with no jacket and left zipping one up.

Hey genius, how can Oswald zip up a jacket (CE 162) at the rooming house when that jacket is in Irving?

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2499 on: June 06, 2021, 01:22:09 AM »
There, fixed it for you.

I was very specific.

Genius.

I couched it as typical of you CTers
Meaning as group; as in you're all the same

Almost-genius Beck.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2500 on: June 06, 2021, 01:34:28 AM »
Roberts stated that Oswald came in with no jacket and left zipping one up.

Hey genius, how can Oswald zip up a jacket (CE 162) at the rooming house when that jacket is in Irving?

Hey almost-genius, how can Oswald be ID'd by several witnesses @Tippit and seen to be wearing a jacket at and near same?

Oswald would fry.

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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2501 on: June 06, 2021, 01:49:21 AM »
Why do you keep repeating this insignificant part of Frazier's testimony, when I have just shown you that it is getting you nowhere.

Even if Oswald wore CE 162 to the TSBD that morning, how come CE 163 was found there and how did CE 162 get to the rooming house, when there is no evidence whatsoever that Oswald left the TSBD wearing a jacket?

Officer Baker only saw a brown shirt during the lunchroom encounter
Mrs Reid, the last person to see Oswald as he was walking towards the front door only saw a shirt
Mrs Bledsoe claimed she saw a hole in a shirt sleeve, which she could not have seen if Oswald was wearing a jacket

McWatters did say he saw a man wearing a jacket but he could not identify him as Oswald

Whaley, in his early statements, did not mention seeing a jacket (as pointed out by Bill Brown)
And Mrs Roberts said Oswald was only wearing a shirt when he entered the rooming house.

So, genius, how did CE 162 get from the TSBD to the rooming house?

The next time you think you have something of substance to offer, think again... and again... and again, because now you're only making a fool of yourself.

"Why do you keep repeating this insignificant part of Frazier's testimony, when I have just shown you that it is getting you nowhere."

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This "insignificant part of Frazier's testimony" that you rely on for your crazy assertion Oswald left his grey jacket in Irving?
That "insignificant" piece of testimony?
The same piece of testimony that states Oswald wore the same grey jacket to work?
Something you refuse to accept.

I repeat it to show your idiocy in action.



Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2502 on: June 06, 2021, 01:54:11 AM »
Hey almost-genius, how can Oswald be ID'd by several witnesses @Tippit and seen to be wearing a jacket at and near same?

Oswald would fry.

how can Oswald be ID'd by several witnesses @Tippit and seen to be wearing a jacket at and near same?

How can witnesses identify Oswald as a man wearing a jacket when he did not leave the rooming house wearing a jacket?

The answer is an easy one; the bogus line up!

It's a mathematical impossibility that so many witnesses identify the same man yet disagree about just about everything else, like for instance the color of the jacket.

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2503 on: June 06, 2021, 01:59:35 AM »
"Why do you keep repeating this insignificant part of Frazier's testimony, when I have just shown you that it is getting you nowhere."

 :D
This "insignificant part of Frazier's testimony" that you rely on for your crazy assertion Oswald left his grey jacket in Irving?
That "insignificant" piece of testimony?
The same piece of testimony that states Oswald wore the same grey jacket to work?
Something you refuse to accept.

I repeat it to show your idiocy in action.

You really are not getting this, are you now? I have said several times now, that even if Oswald did wear CE 162 to work that Friday morning it still means it could not possibly have been at the rooming house for him to put on at 1 PM.

As CE 163 was found at the TSBD after the assassination, and nobody saw Oswald leave the TSBD wearing a jacket, the logical conclusion (which seems to be a foreign concept to you) is that he wore CE 163 to work that morning, but even if he didn't it still doesn't matter one bit, as there is no way that CE 162 could have gotten from Irving or the TSBD to the rooming house.

If you want to continue to display your ignorance, feel free to do so.... you'll only be making a fool of yourself.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2503 on: June 06, 2021, 01:59:35 AM »