Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

[Dan O'meara]

No. Not sure where you get from that I agree with your estimations because I don't agree at all.
I have Callaway making his call at 3 minutes after the shooting. The bogus DPD time line would suggest 5 minutes and 16 seconds, but I don't buy that for a second.

He was making his radio call about three minutes after the shooting

I'm not the one who is confused. You are the one making the mistake to relate everything to the DPD radio transcripts. That's where the confusion comes from. Callaway didn't need 3 minutes to reach the scene.

Good, if we are agreement that it took him around 3 minutes to get to the scene, but if you are going to claim that it took him two minutes to make his call, then I most certainly disagree.

I don't really need you to tell me what problem I seem to be having, because I have no problem at all. You have not demonstrated anything else but that you blindly rely on the DPD tapes despite the fact that the man in charge of the DPD dispatcher clearly told us they were not providing "real time".

Hilarious... Would that be when he had the "coffee break" I previously discussed with Bill Brown. "A couple of minutes"... really? You might want to read his testimony again.

Where are you getting from that the DPD tapes do not show the sequence of events? Of course they do, except the time attached to each event is simply wrong.

I can provide you with a time line which has each witness corroborating the other one, there is no need for any claims that watches were off, that Markham was late to miss her regular bus, that Bowley's watch was at least 5 minutes off (meaning he picked up his daughter from school 5 minutes late), hospital clocks were wrong and a DPD detective as well as a justice of the peace were mistaken about Tippit's DOA. In that time line everything simply fits.

Or alternative, there is the official narrative, based on the DPD time stamps, which - according to the WC - has Tippit being killed at 1:16 (Myers claims it was 1:14:30) and which requires all the people mentioned above to be 100% wrong and can't even match the individual events (involving each individual) in a fluent sequence.

The last time I told you this, you said that the scenario in which it all fits together was the more credible (or words to that effect), yet here you are desperately trying to defend the second (WC) scenario. Why is that?

You seem to be having a problem understanding something very simple about the DPD tape transcripts.
I will try to explain this as simply as I can to show you how I am approaching the tapes.

Let's say, as an example, on the tapes event A happens at 1:18 PM and event B happens at 1:19 PM.
We both agree that the time calls might not be reliable when compared to "real time". So let's ignore the time calls of 1:18 and 1:19
We are sill left with te following information from the tapes:

1)  That two events happened - event A and event B
2)  That there is an order to these events - event A happened before event B
3)  That there is an approximate time gap between these two events of one minute

I cannot explain it any simpler than that. You seem to be under the impression that, just because the time calls might be out when compared to "real time", that there is no other information that can be gained from the tapes. But this is wrong.

Again, you seem really confused. I posted:

"... the DPD tapes do contain the order of events and approximate times between these events."

What I'm saying here is really easy to understand but in response you posted:

"Where are you getting from that the DPD tapes do not show the sequence of events? "

I said they do contain the order of events but you have misrepresented (or not understood) this and insist I am saying they do not contain such an order. Very confusing.

[Dan O'meara]

When I do, you ignore it. Typical LN strategy

So why rely on the time calls when you think there is something off with the time calls?

Why would I call Markham a liar?

Markham had no reason to lie and said in her testimony that she left he home "a little after 1"
She also said that it was around 1:06 or 1:07 when she was walking from 9th street to 10th street
The FBI timed the distance of that one block walk and determined it took 2,5 minutes

The WC lawyer asked her when she normally got her regular bus to work and she answered at 1:15
The FBI determined that the bus schedule for her bus had stops at Jefferson at 1:12 and 1:22
Obviously, this was just the official schedule and not taking in account traffic.

If Markham left her house at "a little after 1" and was walking at 1:06/1:07 she would have arrived at the intersection of 10th and Patton at roughly 1:09 with only another block (2,5 minutes) to walk to get to the bus stop on Jefferson.

If Tippit was killed at 1:16 (according to the WC) or at 1:14 according to Dale Myers, what the hell was Markham still doing at the corner at 10th/Patton. My point is that by then she would have been at Jefferson boarding her bus.

Now, how about some corrobaration?

Bowley, who also had no reason to lie, said in his affidavit that he was picking up his daughter from school (at 12:55) and then went to pick up his wife from work (near the crime scene). He also said that when he arrived at 10th street he saw something had happened, so he parked a distance away so his daughter would not see. He said he looked at his clock and it said 1:10 PM. Now, can watches be wrong? Sure they can, but in this case wouldn't Bowley have noticed when he was late picking up his 12 year old daughter?  Anyway, the driving distance between the school and 10th/Patton is 13 to 14 minutes (I have driven and timed it) which would have gotten him to the Tippit scene at around 1:10 PM

Markham arrived just prior to Tippit being shot and Bowley arrived just after he was shot. What are the chances that both times are wrong by about 5 minutes?

But wait, there's more. When you follow the sequence of events starting with Tippit being killed at around 1:09 and you follow the sequence of events as provided by the corrected DPD time calls you end up with the ambulance arriving at the Methodist Hospital at 1:15 which is exactly the time the authorisation for autopsy states and detective Davenport, who had no reason to lie, confirms it twice in offical documents.

With all this in mind, why would any reasonable person still conclude that the DPD time stamps provide the only accurate time line?

Okay, so your timeline would look something like this:

1:09            Shooting
1:10            Benevides making his call and Bowley arrives
1:10 - 1:11  Bowley makes his call
1:12            Callaway makes his call and Ambulance arrives
1:15            Ambulance arrives at Methodist Hospital

To be honest, that's really impressive and makes a great deal of sense.
It's a pity the DPD tapes prove the ambulance arrives before Callaway makes his call.
And that you have a 6 minute discrepancy between "police time" and "real time". Something your Mr Bowles would heartily disapprove of.
It also has the feeling of a 4x100m relay with everyone racing around at full tilt (but that's just a subjective opinion)

[Martin Weidmann]

You seem to be having a problem understanding something very simple about the DPD tape transcripts.
I will try to explain this as simply as I can to show you how I am approaching the tapes.

Let's say, as an example, on the tapes event A happens at 1:18 PM and event B happens at 1:19 PM.
We both agree that the time calls might not be reliable when compared to "real time". So let's ignore the time calls of 1:18 and 1:19
We are sill left with te following information from the tapes:

1)  That two events happened - event A and event B
2)  That there is an order to these events - event A happened before event B
3)  That there is an approximate time gap between these two events of one minute

I cannot explain it any simpler than that. You seem to be under the impression that, just because the time calls might be out when compared to "real time", that there is no other information that can be gained from the tapes. But this is wrong.

Talking down to me (as you seem to like to do) doesn't improve your credibility.

We are sill left with te following information from the tapes:

1)  That two events happened - event A and event B
2)  That there is an order to these events - event A happened before event B

Agreed

3)  That there is an approximate time gap between these two events of one minute

There is no guarantee that this assumption is correct as the devices used to record DPD radio were voice activated.

There is no way to connect "police time" with "real time." The Committee Report stated that the Dallas Police Communications system was recorded by continuously operating recorders. That statement is incorrect. Channel 1 was recorded on a Dictaphone A2TC, Model 5, belt or loop recorder. Channel 2 was recorded on a Gray "Audograph" flat disk recorder. Both were duplex units with one recording and one on standby for when the other unit contained a full recording. Both units were sound activated. - J.C. Bowles

Again, you seem really confused. I posted:

"... the DPD tapes do contain the order of events and approximate times between these events."

What I'm saying here is really easy to understand but in response you posted:

"Where are you getting from that the DPD tapes do not show the sequence of events? "

I said they do contain the order of events but you have misrepresented (or not understood) this and insist I am saying they do not contain such an order. Very confusing.

You really like using the words "You seem to be confused" a lot don't you?

In this case you have a point, but not because I was confused. When I responded to your post it was already late, I had been writing several long posts before it and was tired. By replying quickly I simply misread what you had written. That's all.

Is this all you have to say? No reply to the points I have raised? Why am I not surprised?

[Martin Weidmann]

Okay, so your timeline would look something like this:

1:09            Shooting
1:10            Benevides making his call and Bowley arrives
1:10 - 1:11  Bowley makes his call
1:12            Callaway makes his call and Ambulance arrives
1:15            Ambulance arrives at Methodist Hospital

To be honest, that's really impressive and makes a great deal of sense.
It's a pity the DPD tapes prove the ambulance arrives before Callaway makes his call.
And that you have a 6 minute discrepancy between "police time" and "real time". Something your Mr Bowles would heartily disapprove of.
It also has the feeling of a 4x100m relay with everyone racing around at full tilt (but that's just a subjective opinion)

It's a pity the DPD tapes prove the ambulance arrives before Callaway makes his call.

No they don't prove that at all. It's an assumption made by Bill Brown which you seem to readily accept

And that you have a 6 minute discrepancy between "police time" and "real time". Something your Mr Bowles would heartily disapprove of.

More BS. You simply haven't read or understood what Bowles told the HSCA.

https://www.jfk-online.com/bowles1.html#set

It also has the feeling of a 4x100m relay with everyone racing around at full tilt (but that's just a subjective opinion)

Everything you say is a subjective opinion. The real question is; is it a honest opinion?

Let's expand on that time line a bit (all times are approximations);

Markham leaves her home at "a little after 1" and is en route to the bus stop on Jefferson by 1:06 or 1:07
She only needs to walk one block to get from 9th street to 10th street. The FBI determined that the distance of one block takes about 2,5 minutes to walk. This gets Markham to the corner of 10th and Patton by 1:09:30 at the latest, perfectly on time to reach the bus stop on Jefferson at 1:11 or 1:12.

1:09            Shooting

Bowley picked up his daugther at school at 12:55 and is en route to pick up his wife from work. The distance between the school and 10th street takes about 13 to 15 minutes to drive. This gets him to 10th street at 1:10

1:10            Benevides making his call and Bowley arrives

Bowley says (in the video "Hunting Oswald") that when he arrived he noticed something was going on, so he parked his car at a fair distance away so his 12 year old daughter would not see it. He then walked towards the police car, checked on Tippit and then noticed Benavides who could not get the radio of the patrol car to work. It's a fair estimation that this would have taken him around 45 seconds. During this time Benavides is keying the mic in vain.

1:11            Bowley makes his call, lasting 46 seconds

DPD officers Poe and Jez (squad car 105) wrote in their supplementary offense report that at approximently 1:10 they heard on the radio that a police officer was involved in a shooting at East Tenth Street.

1:12            Callaway arrives at the scene

1:12:30       After checking on Tippit, Callaway makes his call and hears the ambulance's sirens in the background

                   Ambulance arrives. Callaway and Bowley help loading Tippit's body into the ambulance

1:12:45       DPD officer Croy is in his car at Zang and Colorado when he hears Bowley's radio call. It takes him no more than
                  1,5 to 2 minutes to arrive at 10th street. When he arrives he sees Tippit's body being loaded into the ambulance

1:13            The ambulance leaves. The distance to Methodist Hospital takes 2 minutes to drive in normal traffic. With sirens on
                   it takes less.

                   DPD officers Davenport and Bardin are in their car and see the ambulance pass by. They follow it and arrive at the
                   same time at as the ambulance at the hospital.

1:15            Ambulance arrives at Methodist Hospital and Tippit is declared DOA at 1:15
                   The DOA time is communicated to the Justice of the Peace who issues an Authorization for Autopsy which gives the
                   time of death as 1:15.
                   Davenport writes in his report that Tippit was declared dead at 1:15 and on the form he uses to deliver a bullet
                   taken from Tippit's body and a button from his uniform he writes in his own handwriting that Tippit was declared
                   DOA at 1:15

For the DPD times to be correct, Markham needs to be wrong about the time she left home and she also does not get to the bus stop at 1:15, Bowley's watch must be off by 7 minutes which means he was 7 minutes late to pick up his daughter from school and did not notice it. DPD officers Poe and Jez have to be wrong about the time they heard the radio call. The clocks at Methodist Hospital must be wrong, or at least the one used by Dr. Liquori and Davenport and Bardin must have been mistaken about Tippit being declared dead at 1:15.

[Dan O'meara]

It's a pity the DPD tapes prove the ambulance arrives before Callaway makes his call.

No they don't prove that at all. It's an assumption made by Bill Brown which you seem to readily accept

And that you have a 6 minute discrepancy between "police time" and "real time". Something your Mr Bowles would heartily disapprove of.

More BS. You simply haven't read or understood what Bowles told the HSCA.

https://www.jfk-online.com/bowles1.html#set

It also has the feeling of a 4x100m relay with everyone racing around at full tilt (but that's just a subjective opinion)

Everything you say is a subjective opinion. The real question is; is it a honest opinion?

Let's expand on that time line a bit (all times are approximations);

Markham leaves her home at "a little after 1" and is en route to the bus stop on Jefferson by 1:06 or 1:07
She only needs to walk one block to get from 9th street to 10th street. The FBI determined that the distance of one block takes about 2,5 minutes to walk. This gets Markham to the corner of 10th and Patton by 1:09:30 at the latest, perfectly on time to reach the bus stop on Jefferson at 1:11 or 1:12.

1:09            Shooting

Bowley picked up his daugther at school at 12:55 and is en route to pick up his wife from work. The distance between the school and 10th street takes about 13 to 15 minutes to drive. This gets him to 10th street at 1:10

1:10            Benevides making his call and Bowley arrives

Bowley says (in the video "Hunting Oswald") that when he arrived he noticed something was going on, so he parked his car at a fair distance away so his 12 year old daughter would not see it. He then walked towards the police car, checked on Tippit and then noticed Benavides who could not get the radio of the patrol car to work. It's a fair estimation that this would have taken him around 45 seconds. During this time Benavides is keying the mic in vain.

1:11            Bowley makes his call, lasting 46 seconds

DPD officers Poe and Jez (squad car 105) wrote in their supplementary offense report that at approximently 1:10 they heard on the radio that a police officer was involved in a shooting at East Tenth Street.

1:12            Callaway arrives at the scene

1:12:30       After checking on Tippit, Callaway makes his call and hears the ambulance's sirens in the background

                   Ambulance arrives. Callaway and Bowley help loading Tippit's body into the ambulance

1:12:45       DPD officer Croy is in his car at Zang and Colorado when he hears Bowley's radio call. It takes him no more than
                  1,5 to 2 minutes to arrive at 10th street. When he arrives he sees Tippit's body being loaded into the ambulance

1:13            The ambulance leaves. The distance to Methodist Hospital takes 2 minutes to drive in normal traffic. With sirens on
                   it takes less.

                   DPD officers Davenport and Bardin are in their car and see the ambulance pass by. They follow it and arrive at the
                   same time at as the ambulance at the hospital.

1:15            Ambulance arrives at Methodist Hospital and Tippit is declared DOA at 1:15
                   The DOA time is communicated to the Justice of the Peace who issues an Authorization for Autopsy which gives the
                   time of death as 1:15.
                   Davenport writes in his report that Tippit was declared dead at 1:15 and on the form he uses to deliver a bullet
                   taken from Tippit's body and a button from his uniform he writes in his own handwriting that Tippit was declared
                   DOA at 1:15

For the DPD times to be correct, Markham needs to be wrong about the time she left home and she also does not get to the bus stop at 1:15, Bowley's watch must be off by 7 minutes which means he was 7 minutes late to pick up his daughter from school and did not notice it. DPD officers Poe and Jez have to be wrong about the time they heard the radio call. The clocks at Methodist Hospital must be wrong, or at least the one used by Dr. Liquori and Davenport and Bardin must have been mistaken about Tippit being declared dead at 1:15.

This is my post Reply #2163

From the Dallas Police tapes;

Shortly after Bowley's call on Tippit's radio the Dispatcher puts out this call:

"Attention. Signal 19 [shooting], police officer, 510 E. Jefferson." (Even though Bowley gives 404 Tenth Street as the address of the shooting)

Ambulance 602 responds - "Code 5" [En Route]

Maybe one minute later 602 states - "Code 6" [Arrived] - Meaning the ambulance has reached the East Jefferson address.

Shortly after this 602 asks - "What was that address on Jefferson?" - presumably because there is no sign of anything wrong.

To which the Dispatcher responds - "501 East Tenth."

Shortly after this 602 states - "Code 6" [Arrived] - Meaning they have arrived at the scene of the Tippit shooting at 501 East Tenth Street

Shortly after this 602 tries to get the attention of the Dispatcher but the call is interrupted by Callaway's call.

This is proof the ambulance arrived at the scene before Callaway made his call. I gave you the code meanings and you have the transcript. Instead of arguing the evidence (which you will never do when it shows you to be clearly wrong) you become "confused".
You agree the DPD tapes show the order of events:

1)  That two events happened - event A and event B
2)  That there is an order to these events - event A happened before event B

Agreed

The DPD tapes prove that the order of events, irrespective of "police time" and "real time", the order of events is that the ambulance arrives before Callaway's call.
This evidence proves your timeline is wrong. You can argue all you want about who's watch is right but it doesn't change the fact that the ambulance arrives before the call.

Argue the evidence instead of name-calling or more "confusion"

[Martin Weidmann]

This is my post Reply #2163

This is proof the ambulance arrived at the scene before Callaway made his call. I gave you the code meanings and you have the transcript. Instead of arguing the evidence (which you will never do when it shows you to be clearly wrong) you become "confused".

It is a trivial point to argue about the ambulance arriving before or after Callaway's radio call. His call only took a second or two and the ambulance may well have arrived at exactly that instance. Ambulance 602 made it's code 6 call only seconds before Callaway used the radio. If you want to be believe that Callaway and Bowley were able to load Tippit into the ambulance in those few seconds, then believe it. I don't care.

By arguing that the ambulance got there earlier, you only increase the time between it's departure at 10th street and it's arrival at the hospital. As it stands, Myers and Brown are claiming the ambulance arrived at the hospital (or at least that Tippit was pronounced dead) at around 1:24, which means that if it left at 1:19 it needed 5 minutes to drive a distance with sirens which in normal traffic would have taken a mere two minutes or so. And that makes sense to you?

Instead of arguing the evidence (which you will never do when it shows you to be clearly wrong)

There's the pot calling the kettle black. 

Why in the world should I take you seriously? I can't think of a reason. Can you?

You agree the DPD tapes show the order of events:

The DPD tapes prove that the order of events, irrespective of "police time" and "real time", the order of events is that the ambulance arrives before Callaway's call.
This evidence proves your timeline is wrong. You can argue all you want about who's watch is right but it doesn't change the fact that the ambulance arrives before the call.

Argue the evidence instead of name-calling or more "confusion"

This evidence proves your timeline is wrong.

Stop being so shallow-minded. The ambulance arriving seconds before or after Callaway's call has no real impact on my time line. You are merely using it as an excuse to dismiss the time line completely.

Argue the evidence instead of name-calling or more "confusion"

Says the guy who dismisses all the evidence used to create the time line based on a trivial point.


You guys are truly incredible. You agree that the times of the DPD recordings may not be correct. Bill Brown has the greatest difficulty trying to match individual events to the DPD time line and still you use those recordings as a bible. The level of dishonesty is staggering.

[Dan O'meara]

It is a trivial point to argue about the ambulance arriving before or after Callaway's radio call. His call only took a second or two and the ambulance may well have arrived at exactly that instance. Ambulance 602 made it's code 6 call only seconds before Callaway used the radio. If you want to be believe that Callaway and Bowley were able to load Tippit into the ambulance in those few seconds, then believe it. I don't care.

By arguing that the ambulance got there earlier, you only increase the time between it's departure at 10th street and it's arrival at the hospital. As it stands, Myers and Brown are claiming the ambulance arrived at the hospital (or at least that Tippit was pronounced dead) at around 1:24, which means that if it left at 1:19 it needed 5 minutes to drive a distance with sirens which in normal traffic would have taken a mere two minutes or so. And that makes sense to you?

Instead of arguing the evidence (which you will never do when it shows you to be clearly wrong)

There's the pot calling the kettle black. 

Why in the world should I take you seriously? I can't think of a reason. Can you?

This evidence proves your timeline is wrong.

Stop being so shallow-minded. The ambulance arriving seconds before or after Callaway's call has no real impact on my time line. You are merely using it as an excuse to dismiss the time line completely.

Argue the evidence instead of name-calling or more "confusion"

Says the guy who dismisses all the evidence used to create the time line based on a trivial point.


You guys are truly incredible. You agree that the times of the DPD recordings may not be correct. Bill Brown has the greatest difficulty trying to match individual events to the DPD time line and still you use those recordings as a bible. The level of dishonesty is staggering.

Firstly, Martin, you keep dragging Bill Brown into a discussion we are having. What I'm putting forward has nothing to do with Bill Brown. The analysis of the DPD tapes that clearly prove the ambulance arrives before Callaway's call are my own work. Something I've not seen or heard anywhere else (which isn't to say it hasn't been done before)

Secondly, when I got my head around the timeline you were proposing I called it impressive because, as far as I'm concerned, it is.
It is a far better fit for all the testimony than anything I can come up with at the moment.

The main issues with it, as far as I can see, are (in order of importance):

1) The ambulance arriving before the Callaway call in the DPD tapes

2) Bowley arrives while Benevides is on the radio - Bowley is 1:10 PM, according to his watch, Benevides is calling at 1:16 PM according to DPD tapes. This is a time discrepancy of 6 minutes between the two and Bowles does not hint at anything even remotely like this.

3) You have Callaway calling 3 minutes after the shooting but the tapes have Callaway calling 3 minutes after Benevides tries to make his call. The impression I get from Bowles is that these discrepancies gradually increase over time and are then corrected. I do not see him saying that you can lose a minute or two every three minutes. It would make the system redundant.

"Ambulance 602 made it's code 6 call only seconds before Callaway used the radio"

If this is the case it clears away the main issue with your timeline. In an earlier post I demonstrated, using the order and number of interactions recorded on the DPD tapes, that there was a significant time difference between the ambulance arriving and Callaway's call. This is the post:

I believe the DPD tapes show 602 has arrived at the scene well before Callaway makes his call.
In between 602 giving the Code 6 for the murder scene and Callaway calling out "Hello, hello, hello" there are the following interactions:

102, Code 4.   
   
Was 519 E. Jefferson correct? (Siren)   
   
We have two locations; 501 East Jefferson and 501 East Tenth.   
   
19, are you en route?   

Is this an officer?       
This is northward on Tenth.   
   
10-4.       
10-4.       
10 . . .4.       
10-4.       
 . . . on Tenth.   
   
19 is en route.   
   
10-4, 19.       
   
605, Code 5.       
 
10-4, 605. 1:19.
       
85.       
 
602.       
 
85.       
 
85.       

Suspect running west on Jefferson from the location.   
   
10-4.   
   
Dispatcher   No physical description.

602 then tries to make a call but is interrupted by Callaway. The call could have been to tell the dispatcher they were Code 5 to the Methodist Hospital. I think the amount of interactions between 602 arriving at the scene and Callaway placing his call make it clear there was enough time for Callaway to help load Tippit into the ambulance before he made the call.
No other ambulance arrives during this time.

In my mind this is clearly longer than 6 seconds. This is a lot closer to a minute and supports the notion that as Callaway is stood looking at Tippit's body (as he testifies to doing) the ambulance arrives and Callaway helps load the body. This is also supported by Guinyard's testimony:

Mr. BALL. And what did Callaway do?
Mr. GUINYARD. He turned around and run back to the street and we helped load the policeman in the ambulance.
Mr. BALL. He ran back up to 10th Street, did you say?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did you go with him?
Mr. GUINYARD. Right with him.
Mr. BALL. Did you see a police car there?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes.
Mr. BALL. What did you see besides the police car?
Mr. GUINYARD. The police that was laying down in the front of the car.
Mr. BALL. A policeman?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Was he dead or alive at that time?
Mr. GUINYARD. He looked like he was dead to me.
Mr. BALL. What did you do?
Mr. GUINYARD. Helped put him in the ambulance.

The only way it might possibly work (in my mind) is if as soon as the ambulance sees the murder scene off in the distance they put in the call that they have arrived  and the sirens on Callaway's call is 602 arriving. But this is still very problematic.

[Martin Weidmann]

Firstly, Martin, you keep dragging Bill Brown into a discussion we are having. What I'm putting forward has nothing to do with Bill Brown. The analysis of the DPD tapes that clearly prove the ambulance arrives before Callaway's call are my own work. Something I've not seen or heard anywhere else (which isn't to say it hasn't been done before)

Secondly, when I got my head around the timeline you were proposing I called it impressive because, as far as I'm concerned, it is.
It is a far better fit for all the testimony than anything I can come up with at the moment.

The main issues with it, as far as I can see, are (in order of importance):

1) The ambulance arriving before the Callaway call in the DPD tapes

2) Bowley arrives while Benevides is on the radio - Bowley is 1:10 PM, according to his watch, Benevides is calling at 1:16 PM according to DPD tapes. This is a time discrepancy of 6 minutes between the two and Bowles does not hint at anything even remotely like this.

3) You have Callaway calling 3 minutes after the shooting but the tapes have Callaway calling 3 minutes after Benevides tries to make his call. The impression I get from Bowles is that these discrepancies gradually increase over time and are then corrected. I do not see him saying that you can lose a minute or two every three minutes. It would make the system redundant.

"Ambulance 602 made it's code 6 call only seconds before Callaway used the radio"

If this is the case it clears away the main issue with your timeline. In an earlier post I demonstrated, using the order and number of interactions recorded on the DPD tapes, that there was a significant time difference between the ambulance arriving and Callaway's call. This is the post:

In my mind this is clearly longer than 6 seconds. This is a lot closer to a minute and supports the notion that as Callaway is stood looking at Tippit's body (as he testifies to doing) the ambulance arrives and Callaway helps load the body. This is also supported by Guinyard's testimony:

Mr. BALL. And what did Callaway do?
Mr. GUINYARD. He turned around and run back to the street and we helped load the policeman in the ambulance.
Mr. BALL. He ran back up to 10th Street, did you say?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Did you go with him?
Mr. GUINYARD. Right with him.
Mr. BALL. Did you see a police car there?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes.
Mr. BALL. What did you see besides the police car?
Mr. GUINYARD. The police that was laying down in the front of the car.
Mr. BALL. A policeman?
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Was he dead or alive at that time?
Mr. GUINYARD. He looked like he was dead to me.
Mr. BALL. What did you do?
Mr. GUINYARD. Helped put him in the ambulance.

The only way it might possibly work (in my mind) is if as soon as the ambulance sees the murder scene off in the distance they put in the call that they have arrived  and the sirens on Callaway's call is 602 arriving. But this is still very problematic.

The main issues with it, as far as I can see, are (in order of importance):

1) The ambulance arriving before the Callaway call in the DPD tapes

That's not a big issue as I have already explained to you and I'll do it again below

2) Bowley arrives while Benevides is on the radio - Bowley is 1:10 PM, according to his watch, Benevides is calling at 1:16 PM according to DPD tapes. This is a time discrepancy of 6 minutes between the two and Bowles does not hint at anything even remotely like this.

The discrepancy is what it is. Either you conclude Bowley's watch was 6 minutes slow or you conclude that the time stamps of the DPD tapes is off by six minutes. To determine which conclusion is the correct one, you need to look at all the other events and see how they match. I argue that Bowley's scenario matches seamlessly with Markham's times as well as the information we know about Benavides' actions. To match the entire sequence of events with the DPD time stamps is impossible. For instance, if the ambulance left 10th & Patton at 1:19 for a two minute drive to the hospital, how can it arrive at 1:24 (according to Dale Myers) and how do you explain the two documents in which DPD officer Davenport confirms that Tippit was declared dead (DOA) in his presence at 1:15. It just doesn't fit.

Bowles didn't specifically say that the clocks could be 6 minutes wrong, but if you read his information more closely you will notice that the 6 minutes difference isn't all that impossible.

A master clock on the telephone room wall was connected to the City Hall system. This clock reported "official" time. Within the dispatcher's office there were numerous other time giving and time recording devices, both in the telephone room and in the radio room. Telephone operators and radio operators were furnished "Simplex" clocks. Because the hands often worked loose, they indicated the incorrect time. However, their purpose was to stamp the time, day and date on incoming calls. While they were reliable at this, they were not synchronized as stated in the Committee report. Therefore, it was not uncommon for the time stamped on calls to be a minute to two ahead or behind the "official" time shown on the master clock. Accordingly, at "exactly" 10:10, various clocks could be stamping from 10:08 to 10:12, for example. When clocks were as much as a minute or so out of synchronization it was normal procedure to make the needed adjustments. During busy periods this was not readily done.

Note that Bowles does not say that the master clock's "official" time is the same as "real" time. Secondly he says that the clocks used by the dispatchers indicated the incorrect time and that it was not uncommon for for the time stamped on calls to be a minute to two ahead or behind the "official" time shown on the master clock. And he then adds that when the dispatcher's clocks were a minute or so out they needed adjustment, but in busy periods that was not always done.

So, if the dispatcher's clock could differ two minutes from the "official" time on the master clock, how much did they differ from the "real" time?

Bowles then continues by explaining that the digital clocks used by the dispatchers were not synchronized with any time standard.

In addition to the times stamped on calls by telephone operators, the radio operators stamped the "time" as calls were dispatched, and the "time" that officers completed an assignment and returned to service. Radio operators were also furnished with 12-hour digital clocks to facilitate their time references when they were not using call sheets containing stamped time. These digital clocks were not synchronized with any time standard. Therefore, the time "actual" and time "broadcast" could easily be a minute or so apart.


So, what we now have is a clock used by the dispatcher that could be off by two minutes from the "offical" time, which in turn was not "real" time and we have a time difference between "actual" time (whatever that is) and "broadcast" time.

And still that's not all. He also points out that dispatchers did not always give the correct time stamp when there was heavy radio traffic.

Next, consideration should be given to the methods of individual radio operators. A given operator at a given time might broadcast "time" a little early in one event then a little late the next. Accordingly, a call initiated at, say, 10:10 might be stamped at 10:13 by the dispatcher, only to have intervening radio traffic delay his broadcast. He might go ahead and announce the dispatch time as 10:13 and the digital clock then showed 10:14.

He actually gives as example how a 10:10 event might be time stamped at 10:13 with the digital clock showing 10:14. This clearly demonstrates that it is fully possible that the dispatcher's clocks and time stamps could differ by as much as 3 to 4 minutes from the master clock's "official" time. If the master clock's time then was off by only two minutes from real time, you end up with time stamps that possibly differ 4 or 5 minutes and maybe even 6 minutes from real time.

Let's not forget that the time line not only says that Bowley's watch said 1:10 but also that Markham would have arrived at the corner of 10th and Patton at around 1:09. Without her seeing the shooting she would have continued walking to the bus stop on Jefferson where she would have arrived about 3 minutes later at about 1:12. And then of course there are the officers Poe and Joz who wrote in their report that they heard on the radio about Tippit's death at approximently 1:10

How unlikely a 6 minute time difference between real time and DPD dispatcher time stamps might seems, it has happened unless the above four people are all wrong.

3) You have Callaway calling 3 minutes after the shooting but the tapes have Callaway calling 3 minutes after Benevides tries to make his call. The impression I get from Bowles is that these discrepancies gradually increase over time and are then corrected. I do not see him saying that you can lose a minute or two every three minutes. It would make the system redundant.

No I have Callaway arriving at the scene at roughly 3 minutes after hearing the shots. And I have already demonstrated that as far as real time is concerned the system was in fact redundant, but it served it's purpose of time stamping a sequence of events.

If this is the case it clears away the main issue with your timeline. In an earlier post I demonstrated, using the order and number of interactions recorded on the DPD tapes, that there was a significant time difference between the ambulance arriving and Callaway's call. This is the post:

Have a closer look at the transcript, which starts at 1:19

We have the dispatcher calling out 1:19 twice. And just look how close the second code 6 call of ambulance 602 is to Callaway's radio call.

01:19:00   Dispatcher   10-4, 603 and 602. 1:19.
    602 (ambulance)   What was that address on Jefferson?
    Dispatcher   501 East Tenth.
    85 (Ptm. R.W. Walker)   85 en route.
    19 (Sgt. C.B. Owens)   19
    Dispatcher   19
    19   Give me the correct address on the shooting.
    Dispatcher   501 East Tenth.
    105 (Ptm. J.M. Poe and Ptm. L.E. Joz)   105.
   602 (ambulance)   602, Code 6.
    102 (Ptm. B.L. Jones and Ptm. M.D. Noll)   102, Code 4.
    105 (Ptm. J.M. Poe and Ptm. L.E. Joz)   Was 519 E. Jefferson correct? (Siren)
    Dispatcher   We have two locations; 501 East Jefferson and 501 East Tenth.
    Dispatcher   19, are you en route?
    105 (Ptm. J.M Poe and Ptm. L.E. Joz)   Is this an officer?
                                                        This is northward on Tenth.
    19 (Sgt. C.B. Owens)   10-4
        10-4
        10 . . .4.
        10-4
        . . . on Tenth.
    19   19 is en route.
    Dispatcher   10-4, 19.
    605 (ambulance)   605, Code 5.
    
        Dispatcher   10-4, 605. 1:19.
    Dispatcher   85.
    602 (ambulance)   602.
    Dispatcher   85.
    85 (Ptm. R.W. Walker)   85.
    Dispatcher   Suspect running west on Jefferson from the location.
    85 (Ptm. R.W. Walker)   10-4
    Dispatcher   No physical description.
    Citizen   Hello, hello, hello.
    602 (ambulance)   602.
    Citizen   Pardon, from out here on Tenth Street, 500 block. This officer just shot. I think he's dead.
    Dispatcher   10-4. We have that information. The citizen us
      
It all happens in less than a minute and I would argue that the code 6 call of the ambulance is made no more than 20 or 30 seconds before Callaway's radio call. But whatever the difference is, it has no major impact on my time line.