Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1358 on: September 09, 2019, 08:00:35 PM »
Can you cite for this?  I ask in sincerity.  Without going through the testimony of the participants, I thought they testified that they each were handcuffed to the next man, even during the first lineup.  It's too late tonight and I don't have the desire to dig through the testimony.  So, I'm just thinking, can you support your above statement?  I'd like to have a look.

Testimony of Richard L. Clark.

Mr. BALL. What was your position in the showup?
Mr. CLARK. My right had was handcuffed to Oswald's left hand.
Mr. BALL. Your right----
Mr. CLARK. To his left.
Mr. BALL. To his left. Then who was next to Oswald?
Mr. CLARK. And my partner, W.E. Perry, was next to Oswald.
Mr. BALL. Was he handcuffed to Oswald?
Mr. CLARK. Yes, sir; he was. Handcuffed his left hand to Oswald's right hand.
Mr. BALL. What about Mr. Ables?
Mr. CLARK. Mr. Ables was standing to the left.
Mr. BALL. Was he handcuffed?
Mr. CLARK. No, sir.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1359 on: September 09, 2019, 11:40:39 PM »
Testimony of Richard L. Clark.

Mr. BALL. What was your position in the showup?
Mr. CLARK. My right had was handcuffed to Oswald's left hand.
Mr. BALL. Your right----
Mr. CLARK. To his left.
Mr. BALL. To his left. Then who was next to Oswald?
Mr. CLARK. And my partner, W.E. Perry, was next to Oswald.
Mr. BALL. Was he handcuffed to Oswald?
Mr. CLARK. Yes, sir; he was. Handcuffed his left hand to Oswald's right hand.
Mr. BALL. What about Mr. Ables?
Mr. CLARK. Mr. Ables was standing to the left.
Mr. BALL. Was he handcuffed?
Mr. CLARK. No, sir.



Notice that in the Saturday line up which Whaley viewed....Lee was number three man.   ( Whaley said he thought the number two man looked most like the man he had transported.)....  And....Howard Brennan's line up is completely eliminated....( Brennan said the man he saw standing behind a window with a hunting rifle was NOT present in the line up. Brennan said that Lee Oswald most closely resembled the man who was dressed in light colored khaki clothing that  he saw aiming a hunting rifle.
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1360 on: September 19, 2019, 10:58:37 PM »
Helen Markham [after some prodding in her testimony] only stated that the # 2 in the line up ''gave her chills''. Oswald was beat up and worn out. The other guys were probably cops in suits. Here is an aerial view of the Tippit scene back in the day. NOTE--Markham was some 125 feet or more from the squad car......


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« Reply #1361 on: September 21, 2019, 05:50:11 PM »
Despite your excuses, the fact remains that the lineups were unfair and biased.

“Oswald and his weapons”. LOL.

“Oswald and his weapons”. LOL.

This might be humorous if it wasn't such a despicable attempt to bias the ignorant....

This bold statement of "Oswald and his weapons".... was made even worse when LIFE published the back yard photo ( CE 133A)  on the cover of it's Feburary 21st 1964  issue.....Right beside the greatly enlarged photo of Lee holding a Mannlicher Carcano and wearing a revolver on his hip they posted the words.... "Lee Oswald with the weapons he used to kill President Kennedy and officer Tippit "

The unknowing, ignorant, and trusting public had no way of knowing that they were being duped .....and there was no solid proof that supported the bold statement that they published on the cover of LIFE.   

And that LIFE magazine which was prominently  displayed, like a huge wanted poster, on news stands across the country was very influential in duping us unsuspecting suckers.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1362 on: September 21, 2019, 06:09:52 PM »
Helen Markham [after some prodding in her testimony] only stated that the # 2 in the line up ''gave her chills''. Oswald was beat up and worn out. The other guys were probably cops in suits. Here is an aerial view of the Tippit scene back in the day. NOTE--Markham was some 125 feet or more from the squad car......



This aerial photo is very interesting.....It obviously was taken at the time. ( Probably the morning of November 23).....   

The reporter was working with information he had....and he highlighted a "police car back up path".    Can anybody shed any light on what that means?



The reporter also printed the names of MRS. Holan and Mrs Higgins as if they were significant witnesses....and yet these names are not familiar .

Did Mrs Holan and Mrs Higgins see the murder of Tippit and reported something contrary to the official story?.....  Did they see a police car back up the driveway and leave the scene after the murder of Tippit?

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1363 on: September 21, 2019, 07:55:11 PM »
Those annotations were made later by John Armstrong.

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« Reply #1364 on: September 21, 2019, 08:13:48 PM »
Those annotations were made later by John Armstrong.

Ok ....Thanks for the info....That explains the markings on the photo.   It's stuff like this that causes major problems.