Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1253 on: August 11, 2019, 02:00:07 AM »
Wm Smith stated in his affidavit that the shooter he saw was wearing a WHITE shirt and BROWN jacket.
If this was Oswald--when did he change clothes?

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Wm Smith stated in his affidavit that the shooter he saw was wearing a WHITE shirt...

He was wearing a WHITE shirt, what's your point?





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...and BROWN jacket.

Smith's affidavit said the jacket was LIGHT brown and like almost every eyewitness at the Tippit crime scene they said Oswald was wearing a LIGHT coloured jacket and because everyone perceives colour in their own way due to contrast of background, direction of sun, reflection of surrounds and etc, so of course there was a slight variation in reported colour.



For instance, A and B in the following image are the same.



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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1254 on: August 11, 2019, 02:44:18 AM »
He was wearing a WHITE shirt, what's your point?





Smith's affidavit said the jacket was LIGHT brown and like almost every eyewitness at the Tippit crime scene they said Oswald was wearing a LIGHT coloured jacket and because everyone perceives colour in their own way due to contrast of background, direction of sun, reflection of surrounds and etc, so of course there was a slight variation in reported colour.



For instance, A and B in the following image are the same.



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Bla bla bla…


Yes, Oswald was wearing a white T shirt under his brown shirt, when he was arrested, and his brown shirt looked a lot more brown than a light grey jacket ever would....

But that would of course mean that Oswald didn't leave the roominghouse with his jacket after all and that the white jacket found at the car park wasn't his....

Seems you want to have your cake and eat it too….
 

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1255 on: August 11, 2019, 02:54:14 AM »

Bla bla bla…


Yes, Oswald was wearing a white T shirt under his brown shirt, when he was arrested, and his brown shirt looked a lot more brown than a light grey jacket ever would....

But that would of course mean that Oswald didn't leave the roominghouse with his jacket after all and that the white jacket found at the car park wasn't his....

Seems you want to have your cake and eat it too….

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Yes, Oswald was wearing a white T shirt under his brown shirt, when he was arrested

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But that would of course mean that Oswald didn't leave the roominghouse with his jacket after all

Mr. BALL. It was a zippered jacket, was it?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes; it was a zipper jacket. How come me to remember it, he was zipping it up as he went out the door.
Mr. BALL. He was zipping it up as he went out the door?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes.


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and that the white jacket found at the car park wasn't his....

Mr. RANKIN. 162?
Mrs. OSWALD. That is Lee's--an old shirt.
Mr. RANKIN. Sort of a jacket?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.


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Seems you want to have your cake and eat it too….

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1256 on: August 11, 2019, 02:59:23 AM »
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Mr. BALL. It was a zippered jacket, was it?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes; it was a zipper jacket. How come me to remember it, he was zipping it up as he went out the door.
Mr. BALL. He was zipping it up as he went out the door?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Yes.


Mr. RANKIN. 162?
Mrs. OSWALD. That is Lee's--an old shirt.
Mr. RANKIN. Sort of a jacket?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.


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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1257 on: August 11, 2019, 03:07:36 AM »

Cherry picking only proves my point   Thumb1:

Sorry, but here's Earlene Roberts telling us that Oswald went to his room and got a short coat to put on and went out.


There's more, the eyewitnesses who positively identified Oswald, said Oswald was wearing a jacket.

Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what he had on?
Mrs.V DAVIS. He had on a light-brown-tan jacket.

Mr. BALL. I have a jacket, I would like to show you, which is Commission Exhibit No. 162. Does this look anything like the jacket that the man had on that was going across your lawn?
Mrs.B DAVIS. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. How is it different?
Mrs.B DAVIS. Well, it was dark and to me it looked like it was maybe a wool fabric, it looked sort of rough. Like more of a sporting jacket.

Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes; he stopped. When I saw he stopped, then I looked to see why he was stopping, you see, and I saw this man with a light-colored jacket on.

Mr. BALL. Did he have a jacket or a shirt? The man that you saw shoot Officer Tippit and run away, did you notice if he had a jacket on?
Mrs. MARKHAM. He had a jacket on when he done it.
Mr. BALL. What kind of a jacket, what general color of jacket?
Mrs. MARKHAM. It was a short jacket open in the front, kind of a grayish tan.

Mr. BALL. What did you tell them you saw?
Mr. CALLAWAY. I told them he had some dark trousers and a light tannish gray windbreaker jacket, and I told him that he was fair complexion, dark hair.

Mrs. MARY BROCK, 4310 Utah, Dallas, Texas, advised that on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, she was at the Ballew Texaco Service Station located in the 600 block of Jefferson Street, Dallas, Texas. She advised that at approximately 1:30 PM a white male described as approximately 30 years of age; 5 feet, 10 inches; light—colored complexion, wearing light clothing, came past her walking at a fast pace, wearing a light—colored jacket and with his hands in his pockets.

Mr. BENAVIDES - I would say he was about your size, and he had a light-beige jacket, and was lightweight.
Mr. BELIN - Did it have buttons or a zipper, or do you remember?
Mr. BENAVIDES - It seemed like it was a zipper-type jacket.

Mr. JACK RAY TATUM - At the time I was just approaching the squad car, I noticed this young white male with both hands in the pockets of his zippered jacket


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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1258 on: August 11, 2019, 03:43:15 AM »
Sorry, but here's Earlene Roberts telling us that Oswald went to his room and got a short coat to put on and went out.


There's more, the eyewitnesses who positively identified Oswald, said Oswald was wearing a jacket.

Mr. BELIN. Do you remember what he had on?
Mrs.V DAVIS. He had on a light-brown-tan jacket.

Mr. BALL. I have a jacket, I would like to show you, which is Commission Exhibit No. 162. Does this look anything like the jacket that the man had on that was going across your lawn?
Mrs.B DAVIS. No, sir.
Mr. BALL. How is it different?
Mrs.B DAVIS. Well, it was dark and to me it looked like it was maybe a wool fabric, it looked sort of rough. Like more of a sporting jacket.

Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes; he stopped. When I saw he stopped, then I looked to see why he was stopping, you see, and I saw this man with a light-colored jacket on.

Mr. BALL. Did he have a jacket or a shirt? The man that you saw shoot Officer Tippit and run away, did you notice if he had a jacket on?
Mrs. MARKHAM. He had a jacket on when he done it.
Mr. BALL. What kind of a jacket, what general color of jacket?
Mrs. MARKHAM. It was a short jacket open in the front, kind of a grayish tan.

Mr. BALL. What did you tell them you saw?
Mr. CALLAWAY. I told them he had some dark trousers and a light tannish gray windbreaker jacket, and I told him that he was fair complexion, dark hair.

Mrs. MARY BROCK, 4310 Utah, Dallas, Texas, advised that on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, she was at the Ballew Texaco Service Station located in the 600 block of Jefferson Street, Dallas, Texas. She advised that at approximately 1:30 PM a white male described as approximately 30 years of age; 5 feet, 10 inches; light—colored complexion, wearing light clothing, came past her walking at a fast pace, wearing a light—colored jacket and with his hands in his pockets.

Mr. BENAVIDES - I would say he was about your size, and he had a light-beige jacket, and was lightweight.
Mr. BELIN - Did it have buttons or a zipper, or do you remember?
Mr. BENAVIDES - It seemed like it was a zipper-type jacket.

Mr. JACK RAY TATUM - At the time I was just approaching the squad car, I noticed this young white male with both hands in the pockets of his zippered jacket


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Lexical semantics at work....

And wasn't Earlene Roberts described by her employer as somebody who was known for making up things?

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1259 on: August 11, 2019, 04:14:54 AM »
Lexical semantics at work....

And wasn't Earlene Roberts described by her employer as somebody who was known for making up things?

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Lexical semantics at work....

"Lexical semantics" LOL

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And wasn't Earlene Roberts described by her employer as somebody who was known for making up things?

Yes, that's what one witness said, so what? and btw how in any way does that nullify a stack of supporting evidence for Oswald wearing a light coloured jacket?

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