Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

[Martin Weidmann]

Scoggins a cab driver was on his lunch break so would be aware of the time and is easily the best time eyewitness.

Mr. DULLES. What time was this, approximately, as far as you can recall?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Around 1:20 in the afternoon.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Will you please state then what happened, what you saw, what you did, what you heard?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Well, I first seen the police car cruising east.

Scoggins could accurately guess the time because he was on a schedule, Scoggins recalls discharging a passenger at 1PM then he went and parked his cab walked to the club, then stayed in the club for 10-15 minutes then walked back to his cab.

Mr. BELIN. Where were you driving your cab in the early part of the afternoon of November 22, 1963, if you remember?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Well, I picked up a gentleman at Love Field at approximately 12:35, I would say, and I discharged him at 1 o'clock at 321 North Ewing.
Mr. BELIN. Then where did you go?
Mr. SCOGGINS. I went around by the Gentlemen's Club which I believe is 125 Patton.
Mr. BELIN. What did you do there?
Mr. SCOGGINS. I pulled up and parked at the corner of Patton and 10th and went back down to the club. At first, whenever I passed by, one of the guys hollered at me and asked me did I know the President had been shot, and I made the remark that I had not heard that one. I found a place to park and I came back, and he came back there in a couple of minutes and told me the facts about it. I thought it was some kind of a joke. So I had to go plumb up to the corner of 10th before I could find a parking place, and I parked right there on the corner and went back and got me a coke and watched the deal, watched the television.
Mr. DULLES. Would you speak a little louder, please; I can't quite hear.
Mr. SCOGGINS. I got me a coke and watched television for a few minutes, I would say 10, 12, 15 minutes, there, and went out to eat my lunch.
Mr. DULLES. What were you seeing on television?
Mr. SCOGGINS. The deal about the President getting assassinated; and when I got back to my cab and got my lunch, and, well, I noticed a police car cruising east there on 10th Street.

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Mr. SCOGGINS. Well, I picked up a gentleman at Love Field at approximately 12:35, I would say, and I discharged him at 1 o'clock at 321 North Ewing.

The drive from Love Field to North Ewing only takes 15 minutes, which means that he would have arrived at North Ewing ten minutes earlier than he estimated he did.

[Martin Weidmann]

Nobody gets to a bus stop at the exact time the bus is supposed to arrive.

To catch a (likely delayed) bus at an estimated time of 1:15, one gets to the bus stop a few minutes earlier

[Ray Mitcham]

Nobody gets to a bus stop at the exact time the bus is supposed to arrive.

To catch a (likely delayed) bus at an estimated time of 1:15, one gets to the bus stop a few minutes earlier

 

[Walt Cakebread]

Nobody gets to a bus stop at the exact time the bus is supposed to arrive.

To catch a (likely delayed) bus at an estimated time of 1:15, one gets to the bus stop a few minutes earlier

Buses traveled on a strict time schedule ....   Mc Watters himself told how he was required to be at specific bus stops at a designated time .....Ans that's totally rational and reasonable .      A person using the bus ( Like Helen Markham) would be at the bus stop a few minutes early.

[Martin Weidmann]

Buses traveled on a strict time schedule ....   Mc Watters himself told how he was required to be at specific bus stops at a designated time .....Ans that's totally rational and reasonable .      A person using the bus ( Like Helen Markham) would be at the bus stop a few minutes early.

Buses traveled on a strict time schedule ....   Mc Watters himself told how he was required to be at specific bus stops at a designated time .....Ans that's totally rational and reasonable . 


Of course that's reasonable. However, it's also theory. In practice buses frequently run late due to heavy traffic, accidents, road blocks etc. So, if the schedule for Markham's bus was indeed 1:12, the bus may well have arrived 3 minutes late. On the other hand, Markham's estimate of 1:15 could simply be wrong by three minutes.

A person using the bus ( Like Helen Markham) would be at the bus stop a few minutes early.

Of course she would. Leaving home at approx 1:06, a four minute/2 block walk would have gotten her to the bus stop on Jefferson at around 1:10, in plenty of time for the 1:12 bus. There is no way that she would still be at 10th/Patton at 1:14 - 1:15! She would have passed there around 1:09.

[Walt Cakebread]

Buses traveled on a strict time schedule ....   Mc Watters himself told how he was required to be at specific bus stops at a designated time .....Ans that's totally rational and reasonable . 


Of course that's reasonable. However, it's also theory. In practice buses frequently run late due to heavy traffic, accidents, road blocks etc. So, if the schedule for Markham's bus was indeed 1:12, the bus may well have arrived 3 minutes late. On the other hand, Markham's estimate of 1:15 could simply be wrong by three minutes.

A person using the bus ( Like Helen Markham) would be at the bus stop a few minutes early.

Absolutely right Mr Weidman.....re: Markham being at the bus stop a bit early.....  Bus drivers were in trouble if they arrived at a designated point AHEAD of schedule.....and if they were more than five minutes lae at a dsignated point they were required to explain why they were behind schedule....and the problems that you pointed out were acceptable excuses.....   But stopping to pee was not an accepted excuse....

Of course she would. Leaving home at approx 1:06, a four minute/2 block walk would have gotten her to the bus stop on Jefferson at around 1:10, in plenty of time for the 1:12 bus. There is no way that she would still be at 10th/Patton at 1:14 - 1:15! She would have passed there around 1:09.

[Michael O'Brian]

Officer R.C Nelson had important information about police movements in the Oak Cliff area, yet he was not called to give any testimony, and in all of this threads 123 pages it begs belief how no one else has mentioned this vital guy.
Good Video here with a chilling piece of music which matches the sinister goings on.