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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1442 on: March 02, 2019, 08:30:01 PM »
There's ample evidence that Fritz jotted the notes down just as Lee was replying to the questions....

What ample evidence?

Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #1443 on: March 03, 2019, 12:18:01 AM »

I think you?re on to something, Alan. Fritz didn?t take contemporaneous notes, so it makes sense that he used Bookhout?s and Kelly?s reports to refresh his memory.


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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #1444 on: March 03, 2019, 12:20:36 AM »
Friends, if you want a giggle, go to 2:00 in and have a listen to Elmer Boyd's extremely evasive-mumbly answer to the question of where Mr Oswald (when in interrogation) said he was at the time of the assassination...


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Offline Zeon Mason

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« Reply #1445 on: March 03, 2019, 12:47:00 AM »
Because Virgie Rachley FBI statement refers to Carolyn Arnold, as having"accompanied" Rachley going outside of TSBD at time of 12:15, and yet Rachley did NOT see Oswald, then the sighting of Oswald IN the 2nd floor lunchroom by Arnold, in isolation, is a curious detail.

The door of the lunchroom would have to be OPEN to see anyone sitting at a table, if just bypassing thru the vestibule, on the way to the short 30 ft outer hallway, and then to a water fountain.
Reason given by Carolyn Arnold, in the Earl Gotz 1978 newpaper article, to go the 2nd floor lunchroom was "to get some water".

It is unclear is there was actually a sink with faucet IN the 2nd floor lunchroom or not, however.

There IS for certain, a water fountain located in the 30 ft section of outer hallway, between mens and womens bathrooms.

So its a question if Carolyn Arnold may have gone out the office back door to go to the water fountain, and then went down the 50 ft length of hallway , and then joined Rachley exiting the front door, which would be 12:15 approximately. There after "accompanying" Virgie the rest of the way out of TSBD.

If its the water fountain, then either Oswald was seen because Oswald was coming out of the 2nd floor lunchroom door, thus opening it, AS Carolyn went thru the vestibule, OR, when Carolyn was at the water fountain,, "getting some water", Oswald opened the HALLWAY door!!

If Oswald was opening the hallway door, that could only be to ENTER the outer hallway. And if Oswald was entering the hallway, it was probably for reason of going down it himself, to then head towards the front staircase, because HE TOO was taking the easiest route to get "out front" to "see the Presidential parade"
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1446 on: March 03, 2019, 12:51:49 AM »
Friends, one of the curiosities of how the BOOKHOUT-HOSTY interrogation report differs from the BOOKHOUT ALONE interrogation report is the way the first makes no mention of Mr Bill Shelley, whereas the second features him rather prominently!

Now!

Here we have a copy of that first joint report (disregard the green highlighting please!) on the top of which is handwritten the name of the man who goes curiously unmentioned in the report itself:



'Shelly, William'!

Does anyone here know what 'KP' stands for?

I'm guessing it's not 'Kein Problem'!  :D

Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #1447 on: March 03, 2019, 01:03:09 AM »

'Shelly, William'!

Does anyone here know what 'KP' stands for?

I'm guessing it's not 'Kein Problem'!  :D

'KP.' = Key Principal perhaps?

Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #1448 on: March 03, 2019, 01:09:03 AM »
One thing is for sure-----------

By the time Agent Bookhout gets to dictate his solo report after Mr Oswald's death, it will have become safe to include in an interrogation report the name of 'KP. Shelly, William'.



Though the spelling of his name will still be causing a problem!

Mr Oswald did mention Mr Shelley's name in that first interrogation: he told Fritz he was standing beside him when the P. Parade went past the building.

Once the lunchroom story had moved Mr Oswald away from the front entrance for the P. Parade, 'KP. Shelly, William' became the man Mr Oswald claimed to have stood beside several minutes after the parade!

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