Prayer Woman

[Walt Cakebread]

Friends, it is extremely important that we understand what exactly the 'Fritz notes' are
----------------and what they are not!

They are ALL written by Captain Fritz, but only in the sense that he physically wrote these things down onto paper. Their content, however, was not originated by him!

How so?

With the exception of the all-important Page 1, 'Fritz's notes' display a point-for-point correspondence with the official typed interrogation reports of Agent Bookhout.
Another way of saying this:
They DERIVE entirely from Agent Bookhout's official interrogation reports.
They most certainly are NOT contemporaneous notes, nor even notes written from personal recall!
As such, they are pretty useless from an evidentiary point of view. 

But what----------I hear you ask----------about the all-important Page 1?!?

It is, I am sorry to say, a less straightforward affair altogether

It is not a sequence of notes taken linearly from either the first official interrogation report CO-SIGNED by Agents Bookhout and Hosty or the second official interrogation report SIGNED ONLY by Agent Bookhout.

Now!

Kindly note the two items brightly boxed below:



They offer important clues as to the circumstances of the notes' inditing.

Clue #1! 'B.O.': Captain Fritz, when he wrote this, clearly did not have Agent Bookhout's name in front of him on a written document. He was hearing 'Book-out' and scribbling a phonetic shorthand! (At some point after this he would get it right: 'Bookhout', he adds in.)

Clue #2! 'wrighting': Captain Fritz, when he wrote this, clearly did not have a written text prepared by a well-educated FBI agent in front of him. He was hearing 'writing' and------being a hick!-------inditing the letters w-r-i-g-h-t-i-n-g.

My Solution!

Captain Fritz----------on this page as well as on the other pages-----------is taking notes as he listens to an interrogation report that has been recorded onto dictaphone.

Problem!

Although the notes Captain Fritz is taking on this page as he listens contain elements from both the first official interrogation report CO-SIGNED by Agents Bookhout and Hosty and the second official interrogation report SIGNED ONLY by Agent Bookhout, the scribbled notes' contents cannot fully be explained as a derivative of these two official reports!

Question!

What exactly is the dictated document Captain Fritz is listening to?

 

What exactly is the dictated document Captain Fritz is listening to?

The "dictated Document" was called a Lee Oswald original.....

I believe that you're right in saying that Fritz enter Bookhout's name as "B.O. because that's what his ears heard Book Out.....but maybe Agent Bookhout hadn't showered....Who knows?   

I sincerely wish that you'd get your reasoning apparatus wired right....  You could be a real asset .....

[Alan Ford]

What exactly is the dictated document Captain Fritz is listening to?

 

Now!



3:15 p.m.: this is an important annotation, friends!

Captain Fritz's first interrogation of Mr Oswald did not begin at 3:15 p.m., but 3:15 p.m. is the time when Agents Bookhout & Hosty entered the room!

"When the Agents entered the interview room at 3:15 p. m., Captain Fritz had been previously interviewing Lee Harvey Oswald for an undetermined period of time." (Bookhout/Hosty Interrogation Report, dictated 11/23).

The 3:15 p.m. annotation alone proves that Captain Fritz-----in 'his' notes------is working from some record of the interrogation prepared by either Agent Bookhout, Agent Hosty, or both men!
Otherwise Captain Fritz would have timestamped the start of the interrogation to an earlier time!

 
 

[Alan Ford]

The 3:15 p.m. annotation alone proves that Captain Fritz-----in 'his' notes------is working from some record of the interrogation prepared by either Agent Bookhout, Agent Hosty, or both men!
Otherwise Captain Fritz would have timestamped the start of the interrogation to an earlier time!

 

Now!

It is obvious that the elements here underlined in green-----------



------------closely match the full body of Agent Bookhout's SOLO report (dictated 11/25):

Oswald stated that he did not own any rifle. He advised that he saw a rifle day before yesterday at the Texas School Book Depository which Mr. truly and two other gentlemen had in their possession and were looking at.

Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola form the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employees lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly, and thereafter went home. He stated that he left work because, in his opinion, based upon remarks of Bill Shelly, he did not believe that there was going to be anymore work that day due to the confusion in the building.. He stated after arriving at his residence, then he went to a movie where he was subsequently apprehended by the Dallas Police Department.

Oswald stated that his hours of work at the Texas School Book Depository are from 8 a.m. to 4:45 p.m., but that he is not required to punch a time clock. his usual place of work in the building is on the first floor; however, he frequently is required to go to the fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh floors of the building in order to get books and this was true on November 22, 1963, and he had been on all of the floors in the performance of his duties on November 22, 1963.

 

[Walt Cakebread]

Now!

It is obvious that the elements here underlined in green-----------



------------closely match the full body of Agent Bookhout's SOLO report (dictated 11/25):

Oswald stated that he did not own any rifle. He advised that he saw a rifle day before yesterday at the Texas School Book Depository which Mr. truly and two other gentlemen had in their possession and were looking at.

Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola form the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employees lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly, and thereafter went home. He stated that he left work because, in his opinion, based upon remarks of Bill Shelly, he did not believe that there was going to be anymore work that day due to the confusion in the building.. He stated after arriving at his residence, then he went to a movie where he was subsequently apprehended by the Dallas Police Department.

Oswald stated that his hours of work at the Texas School Book Depository are from 8 a.m. to 4:45 p.m., but that he is not required to punch a time clock. his usual place of work in the building is on the first floor; however, he frequently is required to go to the fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh floors of the building in order to get books and this was true on November 22, 1963, and he had been on all of the floors in the performance of his duties on November 22, 1963.

 

He advised that he saw a rifle day before yesterday at the Texas School Book Depository which Mr. truly and two other gentlemen had in their possession and were looking at.

No.... He did NOT say that he saw "A" rifle (singular)...He said that he saw "Rifles"..  Mr Truly had ( this) rifle and two other rifles day before yesterday in Mr Truly's office.

[Alan Ford]

Captain Fritz----------on this page as well as on the other pages-----------is taking notes as he listens to an interrogation report that has been recorded onto dictaphone.

Another example of Captain Fritz's reliance on some audio version of the FBI interrogation reports, whether played back on dictaphone or read out over the phone:



In Agent Bookhout's corresponding report, on which Captain Fritz's notes here are so obviously based, the words are written correctly: 'Paine', 'immigrants'.
But Captain Fritz writes 'Payne', 'Emigrants'!

 

[Alan Ford]

Friends, we need to be very clear that Captain Fritz's notes rely slavishly on reports made by Agent Bookhout!

Example!

FRITZ NOTES:



CORRESPONDING BOOKHOUT INTERROGATION REPORT:

"Oswald stated that prior to coming to Dallas from New Orleans he had resided at a furnished apartment at 4706 Magazine Street, New Orleans, Louisiana. While in New Orleans, he had been employed by William B. Riley Company, 640 Magazine Street, New Orleans."

But!

Inspector Thomas J. Kelley was present at the same interrogation and made a comprehensive report on it.
Unlike Agent Bookhout, Inspector Kelley heard Mr Oswald correctly:

"He stated in returning a question about his former addresses that he lived at 4907 Magazine Street in New Orleans at one time [...]"

(Note: Mr Oswald actually lived at 4905 Magazine St, but 4907 was the other apartment in the building. Bookhout's 4706 is, by contrast, way off-------and his error is perfectly replicated in Captain Fritz's note!)

[Alan Ford]

Now!

It would be beyond mad to suggest that the slavish point-for-point correspondence of Captain Fritz's scribbled notes and Agent Bookhout's interrogation reports can be explained away as the coincident note-taking or recall of two different men sitting in on the same session.

Example!

Sticking with the Saturday morning interrogation that Agent Bookhout and Inspector Kelley both
------------attended
------------produced reports on...

Here's one phase, as covered in Agent Bookhout's report:

Oswald stated that Mrs. Pain[e] receives no pay for keeping his wife and children at her residence. He stated that their presence in Mrs. Paine's residence is a good arrangement for her because of her language interest, indicating that his wife speaks Russian and Mrs. Paine is interested in the Russian language.
Oswald denied having kept a rifle in Mrs. Paine's garage at Irving, Texas, but stated that he did have certain articles stored in her garage, consisting of two sea bags, a couple of suitcases, and several boxes of kitchen articles and also kept his clothes at Mrs. Paine's residence. He stated that all of the articles in Mrs. Paine's garage had been brought there about September, 1963, from New Orleans, Louisiana.
Oswald stated that he has had no visitors at his apartment on North Beckley.
Oswald stated that he has no receipts for purchase of any guns and has never ordered any guns and does not own a rifle nor has he ever possessed a rifle.
Oswald denied that he is a member of the Communist Party.
Oswald stated that he purchased a pistol, which was taken off him by police officers November 22, 1963, about six month ago. He declined to state where he had purchased it.

Here's the same phase, as covered by Inspector Kelley:

He stated that Mrs. Paine practices Russian by having his wife live with her. He denied that he had ever owned a rifle. He said he does not know Mr. Paine very well but that Paine usually comes by the place where his wife was living with Mrs. Paine on Friday or Wednesday. He stated that Mr. Paine has a car and Mrs. Paine has had two cars. He said in response to questions by Captain Fritz that two sea bags with some other packages containing his personal belongings and that he had brought those back form New Orleans with him sometime in September. He stated that his brother, Robert, lived at 7313 Davenport Street, Fort Worth, and that the Paines were his closest friends in town. He denied that he had ever joined the Communist party; that he never had a Communist card. He did belong to the American Civil Liberties Union and had paid $5 a year dues. He stated that he had bought the pistol that was found in his possession when he was arrested about seven month ago. He refused to answer any questions concerning the pistol or a gun until he talked to a lawyer.

Now! Had Captain Fritz scribbled this section of his notes while listening to dictaphone playback of Inspector Kelley's report, they would have looked a whole lot different to this!:



Instead, we get an uncanny point-for-point coincidence with Agent Bookhout's report. This coincidence, friends, is no coincidence! The notes DERIVE from the report!