Prayer Woman

[Royell Storing]

I belive I sniff a bit of mendacity in the air.....  Bookhout in his scribbled notes  says that Lee told them right off that he lived at 1026 N. Beckley, and was registered as OH Lee...... But Mr Honest Will Fritz says he had to get that information from some unknown officer......   Hmmm

Mr. FRITZ. I sent some officers---you mean right at that time? I also sent officers over to the Beckley address, you know, as soon as we got there, I don't believe we had the Beckley address at this part of this question.
Mr. BALL. You didn't have it at that time, did you?
Mr. FRITZ. Not right at this time, but as soon as I got to that address.
Mr. BALL. Let's come to that a little later and we find out when you got there.
Mr. FRITZ. When I got there?
Mr. BALL. Yes. What did you do after you had sent the officers to Irving?
Mr. FRITZ. When I started to talk to this prisoner or maybe just before I started to talk to him, some officer told me outside of my office that he had a room on Beckley, I don't know who that officer was, I think we can find out, I have since I have talked to you this morning I have talked to Lieutenant Baker and he says I know maybe who that officer was, but I am not sure yet.
Mr. BALL. Some officer told you that he thought this man had a room on Beckley?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir.

        WALTER - Might just be me, but I am bothered by that section of the Notes which contain Oswald going outside to "watch the P. Parade" being a Green BLOCK. The Written portion of the Note is Not merely Highlighted, that entire section of the Note is a Green Block. It looks like it was taken from elsewhere and placed inside the Note. Extremely old fashioned cut-n-paste?

[Walt Cakebread]

        WALTER - Might just be me, but I am bothered by that section of the Notes which contain Oswald going outside to "watch the P. Parade" being a Green BLOCK. The Written portion of the Note is Not merely Highlighted, that entire section of the Note is a Green Block. It looks like it was taken from elsewhere and placed inside the Note. Extremely old fashioned cut-n-paste?

The Written portion of the Note is Not merely Highlighted, that entire section of the Note is a Green Block. It looks like it was taken from elsewhere and placed inside the Note. Extremely old fashioned cut-n-paste?

Surely you're not suggesting that the green highlited area that Alan Ford highlighted was pasted to another note?   

I'm trying to establish a chronology .....  And I believe that you're right in saying that Fritz might have started interogating Lee before Hosty or Bookhout were present....But that doesn't fit with Hosty's claim that Gordon Shanklin had been ordered by Hoover to send Hosty over to the DPD to be present when Lee was being interrogated.  So Shanklin immediately called Curry and told him that Lee Oswald was not to be interrogated until an FBI agent was present.    Shanklin then sent Hosty over to the DOD and as he passed DPD Lt. Jack Reville Hosty blurted out that A communist named Oswald had murdered the President and The FBI knew that Oswald was capable of murdering the President and they knew that Oswald was in Dallas.   Hosty then went into the homicide office and the interrogation began at 3:15.......And one of the first questions that Hosty asked Fritz was:..." Ask him if he's ever been in Mecico City, Captain."

Of course Lee heard the request and blew up at Hosty.....and the reason he blew up was because he knew that there was a tape recording of him shouting at the Cuban ambassidor ...That Son -of- Bi--- Kennedy, Somone ought to shoot him, and maybe I'll do that" .    Lee knew that he had been ordered to pretend to hate JFK so he could obtain a visa to Cuba, and whether he shouted that hollow  threat on his own, or had been coached into shouting that....I don't know....   But Hosty damned sure knew about it..... 

[Alan Ford]

Now that the dust has settled, friends, let's take stock!

The revelation that Agent Hosty heard Mr Oswald tell Captain Fritz, in the first interrogation session, that he
---------------bought a coke in the 2nd fl lunchroom before the motorcade
---------------"went outside to watch P. Parade"
has met with mixed reaction.

On the one side!
Those who cling to kooky theories, e.g.
-----------the Warren Gullibles
-----------the Two!Oswalds!in!the!Building! loons
and those stuck-in-the-mud CTers who consider the 2nd fl lunchroom incident involving Officer Baker to be the single most sacrosanct piece in the puzzle.
These sorry individuals have all responded to the Hosty document with fury, disbelief and absurdly tortured arguments.
They resent and fear the accuracy with which the contents of the Hosty document were predicted by the Prayer Man advocates. Deep down they must know that they have gotten this whole thing horribly wrong.

On the other side!
All those who genuinely want to know the truth and who took one look at the Hosty document and quietly said, "Hmmm, now that's interesting."
These reasonable individuals have met the new revelation without hostility, denial or cognitive dissonance. They understand the significance of what has just happened.
Oswald Out Front can no longer be dismissed as a fringe theory. It's Mr Oswald's own counter-claim to the absurd Warren Report story. As such it deserves to be taken very seriously indeed.

Interesting days! 

[Walt Cakebread]

Now that the dust has settled, friends, let's take stock!

The revelation that Agent Hosty heard Mr Oswald tell Captain Fritz, in the first interrogation session, that he
---------------bought a coke in the 2nd fl lunchroom before the motorcade
---------------"went outside to watch P. Parade"
has met with mixed reaction.

On the one side!
Those who cling to kooky theories, e.g.
-----------the Warren Gullibles
-----------the Two!Oswalds!in!the!Building! loons
and those stuck-in-the-mud CTers who consider the 2nd fl lunchroom incident involving Officer Baker to be the single most sacrosanct piece in the puzzle.
These sorry individuals have all responded to the Hosty document with fury, disbelief and absurdly tortured arguments.
They resent and fear the accuracy with which the contents of the Hosty document were predicted by the Prayer Man advocates. Deep down they must know that they have gotten this whole thing horribly wrong.

On the other side!
All those who genuinely want to know the truth and who took one look at the Hosty document and quietly said, "Hmmm, now that's interesting."
These reasonable individuals have met the new revelation without hostility, denial or cognitive dissonance. They understand the significance of what has just happened.
Oswald Out Front can no longer be dismissed as a fringe theory. It's Mr Oswald's own counter-claim to the absurd Warren Report story. As such it deserves to be taken very seriously indeed.

Interesting days! 

The revelation that Agent Hosty heard Mr Oswald tell Captain Fritz, in the first interrogation session, that he
---------------bought a coke in the 2nd fl lunchroom before the motorcade

Nope....The coke issue came up in the SECOND interrogation session....And Hosty wasn't even there.....

[John Iacoletti]

     Are you claiming there were 2 Oswalds?

Yes, yes he is....

[Walt Cakebread]

     Are you claiming there were 2 Oswalds?

Psssst, Royell....  Yes that's what he's saying, but cut him a little slack....cuz he can't help it if he's a couple of french fries short of a complete happy meal......

[Alan Ford]

Friends, it is extremely important that we understand what exactly the 'Fritz notes' are
----------------and what they are not!

They are ALL written by Captain Fritz, but only in the sense that he physically wrote these things down onto paper. Their content, however, was not originated by him!

How so?

With the exception of the all-important Page 1, 'Fritz's notes' display a point-for-point correspondence with the official typed interrogation reports of Agent Bookhout.
Another way of saying this:
They DERIVE entirely from Agent Bookhout's official interrogation reports.
They most certainly are NOT contemporaneous notes, nor even notes written from personal recall!
As such, they are pretty useless from an evidentiary point of view. 

But what----------I hear you ask----------about the all-important Page 1?!?

It is, I am sorry to say, a less straightforward affair altogether

It is not a sequence of notes taken linearly from either the first official interrogation report CO-SIGNED by Agents Bookhout and Hosty or the second official interrogation report SIGNED ONLY by Agent Bookhout.

Now!

Kindly note the two items brightly boxed below:



They offer important clues as to the circumstances of the notes' inditing.

Clue #1! 'B.O.': Captain Fritz, when he wrote this, clearly did not have Agent Bookhout's name in front of him on a written document. He was hearing 'Book-out' and scribbling a phonetic shorthand! (At some point after this he would get it right: 'Bookhout', he adds in.)

Clue #2! 'wrighting': Captain Fritz, when he wrote this, clearly did not have a written text prepared by a well-educated FBI agent in front of him. He was hearing 'writing' and------being a hick!-------inditing the letters w-r-i-g-h-t-i-n-g.

My Solution!

Captain Fritz----------on this page as well as on the other pages-----------is taking notes as he listens to an interrogation report that has been recorded onto dictaphone.

Problem!

Although the notes Captain Fritz is taking on this page as he listens contain elements from both the first official interrogation report CO-SIGNED by Agents Bookhout and Hosty and the second official interrogation report SIGNED ONLY by Agent Bookhout, the scribbled notes' contents cannot fully be explained as a derivative of these two official reports!

Question!

What exactly is the dictated document Captain Fritz is listening to?