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Offline Michael Capasse

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #539 on: March 08, 2025, 02:41:30 PM »
All garbage.

You asked for proof and now that it has been presented you do not like the results.

But don't be so hard on yourself.  It all comes from your posts. Apparently, you just never read them.


She never saw him touch the bag with his left hand

No, according to her statements and your own assessment she did.


The prints on the bag are not consistent with how it was carried.

Oh, but they are. I am sure you would like them not to be but no they are there.

I don't debate cartoon theories.
Later, dude.

Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #540 on: March 08, 2025, 03:01:42 PM »
I don't debate cartoon theories.
Later, dude.

You don’t debate? That is interesting.  A better way to describe it is “when the going gets tough the tough get going”.

Anyway, your posts put the BWF and bag issue to bed.

Offline Michael Capasse

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #541 on: March 08, 2025, 03:39:48 PM »

No evidence of the rifle in the Paine garage on 11/21
The prints on the bag are not consistent with how it was carried.
Although Frazier did not pay attention to the bag, he was sure it was carried from the palm to the armpit. (too small for the rifle)
Both Frazier & Linnie Mae had no reason to lie about what they saw.



 Thumb1:There is no reason to believe the rifle was ever put in that bag and carried in that morning by Lee Oswald.



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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #542 on: March 08, 2025, 04:46:54 PM »
No evidence of the rifle in the Paine garage on 11/21
The prints on the bag are not consistent with how it was carried.
Although Frazier did not pay attention to the bag, he was sure it was carried from the palm to the armpit. (too small for the rifle)
Both Frazier & Linnie Mae had no reason to lie about what they saw.



 Thumb1:There is no reason to believe the rifle was ever put in that bag and carried in that morning by Lee Oswald.

Both Frazier & Linnie Mae had no reason to lie about what they saw.

Linnie Mae did not lie about what she saw. BWF had a very good reason to lie.

Linnie Mae and BWF gave radically different accounts of how the bag was carried. Linnie Mae’s account of how the bag was carried does not work with BWF’s estimate of length. Linnie Mae’s account works with what was discovered in the SN. BWF’s does not. The bag discovered in the SN has LHO’s prints on it matching Linnie Mae’s description of LHO carrying the package. You know this.
 

 
 

Offline Tom Sorensen

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #543 on: March 08, 2025, 07:07:17 PM »
And considering you couldn't refute a single point, makes my facts the only possible answers. Thanks for playing.

And this is the best you got, after I just humiliated you? Get real.

What idiot stores his rifle with the ammo, you're not very good at this are you, Tom!

Oswald didn't even have enough bullets to fill his clip, any ammo box was long gone.

What proof have you got that the scope was attached or even in the Blanket, because at Neely street, Oswald's rifle didn't have the scope attached, Oops, so it's not a given that it was permanently attached. And considering the rifle was war surplus, you know designed to be used in a war, I don't think Oswald was too concerned about a few toddlers rummaging about around his blanket wrapped rifle. Hahahaha!

Mr. RANKIN. Was it out in the room at that time, as distinguished from in a closet in the room?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, it was open, out in the open. At first I think---I saw some package up on the top shelf, and I think that that was the rifle. But I didn't know. And apparently later he assembled it and had it in the room.
Mr. RANKIN. When you saw the rifle assembled in the room, did it have the scope on it?
Mrs. OSWALD. No, it did not have a scope on it.




BTW I love smashing silly overconfident bully CT's, it makes each and every win extremely satisfying.

Next time bring your "A" game because so far making you look the fool is just way too easy. Now run along and do a little research so you can at least appear barely competent.

JohnM

Right, Oswald didn't really care about his Carcano and toddlers kicking it around the garage floor was no big deal, so what exactly did you mean by "safely stored"?

Oh, about the scope, if it wasn't permanently attached, when did it become attached?

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #544 on: March 08, 2025, 08:47:30 PM »
There are fingerprints confirming Linnie Mae’s description of how it was held.

No.  As Pat Speer brilliantly illustrated, the palmprint was near the middle of the bag, and the fingerprint was near the bottom of the bag.

https://www.patspeer.com/jahs-chapter-18

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #545 on: March 08, 2025, 08:58:40 PM »
Besides the Mountain of physical evidence

LOL

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1) Oswald asks Frazier to take him to Irving to get "curtain rods".
2) Oswald breaks his usual routine and goes to Irving on a Thursday which just happens to be the day before the Presidential visit, what a coincidence!
3) Oswald goes against standard protocol and doesn't get permission from Ruth Paine for his unexpected visit.
4) Oswald leaves most of his money.
5) Oswald leaves his wedding ring.
6) Oswald never tells Marina he's going to leave with "curtain rods".
7) Oswald never tells Ruth that he's going to leave with "curtain rods".
8} Oswald upon reaching Frazier's house immediately hides the "curtain rods" in Frazier's car.
9) Oswald's package is seen by Frazier on the back seat of Frazier's car and Oswald confirms that it contains "curtain rods", whereas the interrogators recall that Oswald said he carried the package on his lap in the front seat.
10) Oswald is 50 feet ahead of Frazier when entering the Texas School Book Depository, another first.
11) Oswald leaves the Depository not at the start or end of lunch but after about 3 minutes from when the President is assassinated, roughly the time it takes to walk from the 6th floor, be confronted, buy a coke and then exit on the ground floor.
12) Oswald never asks permission to leave work by his immediate superior Shelley, in fact Shelley testifies that he never sees Oswald after 12PM.
13) Oswald made a great effort to get "curtain rods" yet isn't seen by Bledsoe on the bus carrying "curtain rods"
14) Oswald isn't seen in Whaley's cab carrying "curtain rods"
15) Oswald isn't seen by Roberts carrying "curtain rods" into his room at the rooming house.
16) Oswald's room doesn't contain any additional "curtain rods".
17) Oswald's room doesn't even need additional "curtain rods".
18) Oswald was not described by any eyewitnesses at the Tippit crime scene carrying "curtain rods"
19) Oswald was not described by Johnny Brewer as carrying "curtain rods"
20) Oswald didn't hit Officer McDonald over the head in the Texas Theatre with "curtain rods"
21) Oswald told his interrogators a different story that he never had "curtain rods" and only carried his lunch to work.
22) Oswald's prints were found on a brown paper bag recovered in the sniper's nest.
23) Oswald's rifle was a neat fit for the brown paper bag.
24) Oswald's "curtain rods" were never found in the Depository.

That is a really cool list of claims, exactly none of which are evidence that Oswald brought a rifle into the TSBD.