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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: New: "Faulty Evidence: Problems with the Case Against Lee Harvey Oswald"
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2026, 04:03:57 PM »
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The FBI took an imprint from Oswald's rifle from the exact same location that Day on the day, took the palmprint impression from Oswald's rifle and the FBI confirmed beyond all doubt that Oswald palmprint was in contact with Oswald's rifle!!!

The palmprint that Day took on the 22nd.



The print that the FBI took directly from Oswald's rifle.



The random marks from Day's print is a perfect match to the prints taken from Oswald's rifle by the FBI.



And besides the above Incredibly Powerful Indisputable Evidence, Vincent Scalice with high resolution photos taken with multiple exposures of Oswald's rifle proved again beyond all doubt that Oswald's prints were on the Trigger Guard of Oswald's rifle!!!


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Great graphics John

Real evidence frightens Griffith. That is why he never posts anything but hearsay, maybe's and what if's from half-baked pseudo experts. The rifle was LHO's, no doubts.

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Great graphics John

Real evidence frightens Griffith. That is why he never posts anything but hearsay, maybe's and what if's from half-baked pseudo experts. The rifle was LHO's, no doubts.

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...and what if's from half-baked pseudo experts.

This is classic Griffith, it doesn't matter how many genuine specialized experts agree, Griffith will dig up some "expert" who is totally unqualified in a particular field and somehow this "expert" will endorse Griffith's MASSIVE conspiracy!
Here's some examples from Griffith and/or his hardcore conspiracist friends.

Like a mathematician with a PHD who sees Zapruder fakery.
Like a Hollywood Colorist who sees "impossibilities" in the Backyard photos
Like professional Film Editors who see a painted in black patch in logarithmically manipulated multi generational Zapruder frames.
Like X-ray technicians commenting on forensic science.
Like a Podiatrist who has an opinion on forensic ballistics and head wound analysis.
The list is almost never-ending...

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Not surprisingly, when a PSE polygraph analysis was done on a recording of Officer Bentley repeating his belated claim that he found a Hidell ID card in Oswald's wallet on the way to the police station, the PSE showed hard stress, a clear indication he was lying.

As mentioned, Bentley said nothing about finding any Hidell ID card on Oswald in his 12/3/1963 report to Chief Curry:

On the way to the city hall I removed the suspect's wallet and obtained his name. He made several remarks en route to the city hall about police brutality and denied shooting anybody. . . . I turned his identification over to Lieutenant Baker. I then went to Captain Westbrook's office to make a report of this arrest. (CE 2003, p. 78)

Bentley was interviewed at around 3:30 PM on WFAA-TV, barely two hours after Oswald's arrest. He told the gathered reporters that he removed Oswald's wallet from his rear pocket and found identification in the wallet for "Lee Harvey Oswald." He said nothing about any other name or any Hidell ID card.

Another police officer who rode in the car with Oswald on the way to the police station was Sgt. Gerald Hill. In his description of the arrest and transfer of Oswald to the police station on NBC TV on 11/22/1963, just a few hours after the event, Hill specified that they identified Oswald as "Lee H. Oswald" after removing his wallet ("billfold"):

Hill: The only way we found out what his name was was to remove his billfold and check it ourselves; he wouldn't even tell us what his name was. . . .

Question: What was the name on the billfold?

Hill: Lee H. Oswald. O-S-W-A-L-D. (CE 2160)
 

Not a word about any other name or any Hidell ID card.

The same silence about finding any Hidell ID card on Oswald on the way to the police station is seen in the first reports submitted by Officers Bob Carroll and C.T. Walker, both of whom rode in the police car with with Bentley and Hill when Oswald was taken to the police station (CE 2003, pp. 81-82, 91, and 100-101).

Significantly, Justice of the Peace David Johnston seemed to know nothing about Oswald using the Hidell alias or about the finding of a Hidell ID card for at least 24 hours after Oswald was arrested. Johnston issued the search warrant for the search of Oswald's boarding house, spent the next 12 hours "in conference" with police and prosecutors, and presided over two of Oswald's arraignment hearings. In his handwritten report (Johnston Exhibit No. 1), after listing Oswald's name and other information, Johnston wrote that Oswald used the alias "O.H. Lee": "Alias—0.H. Lee." Not a word about a Hidell alias or a Hidell ID card.

Similarly, FBI Agents James Bookhout and James Hosty said nothing about the use of the Hidell alias or the finding of a Hidell ID card in their reports on the Friday interrogation sessions of Oswald (Warren Report, pp. 612-613, 619-620). Hosty and Bookout mentioned that Oswald was asked about the O.H. Lee alias, but said nothing about his being asked about any other alias. Bookhout mentioned the Hidell ID card for the first time in his report on the Saturday interrogation session (Warren Report, p. 623).

Against the clear weight of the contemporaneous evidence that authorities knew nothing about a Hidell ID card until Saturday afternoon, i.e., the afternoon of 11/23/1963, WC apologists cite FBI agent Manning Clements' report, dated 11/23/1963, in which Manning claimed he interrogated Oswald on Friday night and found a Hidell ID card in Oswald's wallet.

Say what?! How could this be? Bentley said he took Oswald's wallet from him during the car ride to the police station, and that he gave the Oswald ID to Lt. Baker when they arrived at the station. Let's read Bentley's 12/3/1963 report again: 

On the way to the city hall I removed the suspect's wallet and obtained his name. He made several remarks en route to the city hall about police brutality and denied shooting anybody. . . . I turned his identification over to Lieutenant Baker. I then went to Captain Westbrook's office to make a report of this arrest. (CE 2003, p. 78)

Moreover, DPD detective Richard Sims said he searched Oswald at 4:05 PM on Friday and did not find a wallet or any ID cards (7 H 180). Well, of course not, because Oswald's wallet and its contents, including his ID card, had already been confiscated and booked into evidence:

Mr. STERN. Now, the search in which you participated of Oswald at 4:05 on Friday, just before the first showup [police lineup] -- you have told us that either you or Mr. Boyd found five live rounds of .38 caliber pistol shells, and a bus transfer slip, and an identification bracelet, according to your memorandum -- Oswald took his ring off and gave it to you?

Mr. SIMS. That’s right.

Mr. STERN. Do you recall that?

Mr. SIMS. Yes, sir.

Mr. STERN. Do you remember anything else that was found on Oswald at that time?

Mr. SIMS. No, sir; I don’t remember anything else.

Mr. STERN. A wallet or identification card?

Mr. SIMS. No, sir; that had been taken off of him (7 H 180).
 

Now, leaving aside the preposterous notion that the previous searches of Oswald had somehow "missed" five bullets and a bus transfer slip, we see that by 4:05 PM on Friday Oswald of course no longer had his wallet, which is why Sims found no wallet or ID on him when he searched him. So FBI agent Clements was obviously lying when he said he found a Hidell ID card on Oswald on Friday night, hours after Sims had searched Oswald and hours after Oswald's wallet and its contents had already been confiscated.

Months after Oswald's arrest, some police officers claimed that a Hidell ID card was found in Oswald's wallet on the way to the police station and that the Hidell ID was seen at the station after Oswald arrived, while some federal agents claimed that they saw a Hidell ID card on Friday after Oswald was arrested and that they questioned him about his Hidell alias that afternoon or evening. But the contemporaneous record, with the sole exception of FBI agent Clements' fraudulent report, shows that authorities seemed to know nothing about the Hidell alias or the Hidell ID card until some 24 hours after Oswald's arrest, i.e., only after the FBI "discovered" that the supposed murder weapon had been ordered under the name "A. Hidell."
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Not surprisingly, when a PSE polygraph analysis was done on a recording of Officer Bentley repeating his belated claim that he found a Hidell ID card in Oswald's wallet on the way to the police station, the PSE showed hard stress, a clear indication he was lying.

You do seem to have a fondness for junk science.

AI provided this assessment on the validity of PSE:

Reliability of the Psychological Stress Evaluator
The Psychological Stress Evaluator (PSE) has not been shown to be a scientifically valid or reliable tool for objectively measuring stress, and its use is generally considered unreliable in clinical and legal contexts.

What the PSE Is
The PSE is a device that claims to detect stress by analyzing vocal characteristics such as pitch, tone, and “micro tremors”
neurolaunch.com
 
It was marketed for use in law enforcement, corporate security, and some mental health settings
neurolaunch.com

Research Findings
Limited clinical validity: A 1981 Johns Hopkins University study found no correlation between PSE readings and established measures of anxiety and hostility, suggesting it has only limited value as a clinical assessment tool
pure.johnshopkins.edu

Scientific criticism: Independent research has shown that the PSE’s “micro tremor” indicator has little correlation with truthfulness or actual stress levels
John E. Reid and Associates, Inc.

The device may increase confession rates in interrogations, but this is due to psychological pressure, not accurate measurement
John E. Reid and Associates, Inc.

Legal restrictions: Several U.S. states have banned the PSE, and courts have excluded confessions obtained with it, citing lack of scientific validity and potential coercion
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Here is an additional assessment of PSE and its successor, CVSA:

https://reid.com/resources/investigator-tips/the-computerized-voice-stress-analyzer-cvsa

The last line in this article is most telling:
"The average accuracy rate of the CVSA in these studies was 38.7%."

38.7% is worse than a coin flip.
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