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Online Tom Scully

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Re: Am I the only one...
« Reply #28 on: Today at 05:46:20 PM »
At least you didn't blame Russia or Putin for once.  These "confederate states" that you reference are the same ones that people from NY and California are moving to in droves?  Do people move their families to other states in the belief that these states are worse than the ones they are fleeing?  LOL.  What a TDS fantasy world you are living it.  People are literally voting with their feet (to give you a thrill by paraphrasing Lenin).  They are fleeing the disasters created by decades long liberal rule in places like California and NY.  Crime, taxes, illegal aliens, homeless encampments.  An intentional catastrophe to make as many people downtrodden and reliant on the government for handouts as possible

Your counter factual description of California reminds me of the classic complaint about the restaurant that the complainer says sucks because it is always so crowded and noisy!

You ignored my well supported arguments against execution and high incarceration…. They are not deterents but instead are more expensive and counterproductive compared to results in states with no executions and dramatically less per capita incarceration rates.

The least safe states are red states. The red state governments focus on “solving” problems that do not exist at a level that made it at all reasonable to prioritize them!

AT LEAST 12 state governments are not second guessing pediatricians, Ob-Gyns, librarians. or scientific consensus because it is not reasonable for legislators to focus on contradicting what is beyond the expertise of the average red states legislator.

Cost of living is heavily influenced by demand. There must still be enough demand for New York or California residence, both much safer than almost any red state, to maintain housing price and income levels.

I know of a couple who moved ten years ago at onset of retirement age from western CT to North GA. She had taught school and he was a self employed handy man. There was no property tax break in CT for homeowners with net annual income below $25k. In GA, senior homeowners with that income limit get the school tax portion of their property tax waived. They pay $1050 annually on their home currently market priced at $600,000 which rose 50% in price in ten years, while younger and wealthier neighbors over 65 pay $7,000 annual tax. The GA county they reside in has 15th highest average household income in the U.S.

None of those points changes that the GA Republican controlled state government reaps what it sows. It is a malpractice disaster as far as legislative focus compared to CT’s state gov. BTW, the waiving of school tax on homes of low income retirees shifts the cost to all other homeowners.

Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #29 on: Today at 07:19:18 PM »
Your counter factual description of California reminds me of the classic complaint about the restaurant that the complainer says sucks because it is always so crowded and noisy!

You ignored my well supported arguments against execution and high incarceration…. They are not deterents but instead are more expensive and counterproductive compared to results in states with no executions and dramatically less per capita incarceration rates.

The least safe states are red states. The red state governments focus on “solving” problems that do not exist at a level that made it at all reasonable to prioritize them!

AT LEAST 12 state governments are not second guessing pediatricians, Ob-Gyns, librarians. or scientific consensus because it is not reasonable for legislators to focus on contradicting what is beyond the expertise of the average red states legislator.

Cost of living is heavily influenced by demand. There must still be enough demand for New York or California residence, both much safer than almost any red state, to maintain housing price and income levels.

I know of a couple who moved ten years ago at onset of retirement age from western CT to North GA. She had taught school and he was a self employed handy man. There was no property tax break in CT for homeowners with net annual income below $25k. In GA, senior homeowners with that income limit get the school tax portion of their property tax waived. They pay $1050 annually on their home currently market priced at $600,000 which rose 50% in price in ten years, while younger and wealthier neighbors over 65 pay $7,000 annual tax. The GA county they reside in has 15th highest average household income in the U.S.

None of those points changes that the GA Republican controlled state government reaps what it sows. It is a malpractice disaster as far as legislative focus compared to CT’s state gov. BTW, the waiving of school tax on homes of low income retirees shifts the cost to all other homeowners.

All the words in the world don't change simple facts.  People are leaving places like California and NY that have been governed by liberals for decades.  They are moving to red states.  These people are not acting irrationally against their own self interest.  They are leaving behind high taxes, crime, homeless encampments, and illegal alien sanctuaries for a better life.

Online Tom Scully

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« Reply #30 on: Today at 08:32:05 PM »
All the words in the world don't change simple facts.  People are leaving places like California and NY that have been governed by liberals for decades.  They are moving to red states.  These people are not acting irrationally against their own self interest.  They are leaving behind high taxes, crime, homeless encampments, and illegal alien sanctuaries for a better life.
You’re overly influenced by right wing propaganda, sponsored by the folks who hide behind you after heavily investing in shaping your POV

Follow the money. If the mass exodus you believe is happening, why is it not showing up in the supply and demand ?

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2026/05/11/luxury-real-estate-manhattan-mamdani-pied-a-terre-tax.html
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The wealthy keep buying Manhattan real estate despite potential pied-à-terre tax
PUBLISHED MON, MAY 11 2026 11:43 AM EDT

https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/bay-area-home-values-22435167.php
Sept 15, 2026
Home values rose in all 9 Bay Area counties in August
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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Am I the only one...
« Reply #31 on: Today at 08:40:05 PM »
You’re overly influenced by right wing propaganda, sponsored by the folks who hide behind you after heavily investing in shaping your POV.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2026/05/11/luxury-real-estate-manhattan-mamdani-pied-a-terre-tax.html
INSIDE WEALTH
The wealthy keep buying Manhattan real estate despite potential pied-à-terre tax
PUBLISHED MON, MAY 11 2026 11:43 AM EDT

I'm not sure what relevance that has.  The fact remains that the citizens who live in these liberal hellscapes are fleeing to red states.  They are doing so in large numbers.  Over one million New Yorkers have fled in since 2020.  In that same timeframe, approximately four million Californians have left.  What is your explanation for this mass exodus?  Are they under Russian mind control?

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« Reply #32 on: Today at 10:08:45 PM »

AT LEAST 12 state governments are not second guessing pediatricians, Ob-Gyns, librarians. or scientific consensus because it is not reasonable for legislators to focus on contradicting what is beyond the expertise of the average red states legislator.

Second guessing librarians? What exactly are you referring to with that whole paragraph?

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« Reply #33 on: Today at 10:11:13 PM »
The least safe states are red states. The red state governments focus on “solving” problems that do not exist at a level that made it at all reasonable to prioritize them!

The least safe places in those red states are blue cities.

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« Reply #34 on: Today at 10:12:33 PM »
I'm not sure what relevance that has.  The fact remains that the citizens who live in these liberal hellscapes are fleeing to red states.  They are doing so in large numbers.  Over one million New Yorkers have fled in since 2020.  In that same timeframe, approximately four million Californians have left.  What is your explanation for this mass exodus?  Are they under Russian mind control?
State govs. Pass criminal codes, court policies. Funding of courts, state police, marijuans penalties, etc.

BTW, Massachusetts 2nd safest state,
Boston pop.  700,000 2025 murders = 24

Louisiana 49th safest state
Shreveport, LA pop. 200,000  2025 murders = 29

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/profiles/LA.html
Incarceration per 100,000 pop.
Massachusetts 241
Louisiana 1067

“Hellscape” safety rankings :
https://wallethub.com/edu/safest-states-to-live-in/4566
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