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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Why didn't Clint Hill hear the first shot?
« Reply #21 on: Today at 04:42:50 AM »
I'll leave it to Tom Graves to defend his scenario.
Thanks for that observation, Captain Obvious.
You continue to deny that most of the earwitnesses heard 3 shots. There is no reason for them to identify one of them as an early shot. To them, there was a first, second, and third shot. 
You really show how bad you are at reasoning with statements like the above.

You weren't able to understand the post? If you cannot figure out if Graves was right at Z124 or were you at Z150 or whatever it is, what does that say about the evidence of an early missed shot in general.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Why didn't Clint Hill hear the first shot?
« Reply #22 on: Today at 09:55:20 AM »
In Tom Graves Land every time someone turns from one side to the other that equates to a missed shot? So, how many missed shots were there from the airport to Dealey Plaza? I would bet the KGB knows how many missed shots there were along the route.

Dear Jack "Ignoramus" Nissan,

Between Z-140 and Z-150, five people in the limo, three Secret Service agents in the follow-up car, and running girl Rosemary Willis turned their heads rapidly in response to Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot at "Z-124."

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Not to be the bearer of bad news but it was a motorcade parade with people on both sides of the street. The SS and members of the parade are supposed to turn from side to side. Maybe you did not know that.

Dear Jack "Ignoramus" Nessan,

Jack Ready's job was to keep an eye on JFK, not to lean over and move his head around like a bobblehead doll.

To see if JFK was okay after Oswald's first shot, Glen Bennett had to look around Dave Powers in the jump seat. That's what we see Bennett doing starting around Z-150.

One would think George Hickey's job didn't entail his bending over as though he was barfing, but that's what he did (bend over like he was barfing) starting around Z-145.

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Where are the quotes about an early missed shot to go along with your witness list. Not one of those people in the post stated there was an early missed shot. They had no problem identifying the two shots that were fired.

Both Ready and Hickey said the first shot sounded like a firecracker.

John Connally recognized it as a high-powered rifle shot.

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The nature of your post would indicate you think Corbett is completely wrong with his early missed shot scenario. Was there more than one missed shot on just Elm Street?

Dear Jack "Ignoramus" Nessan,

The important thing is that Oswald's first shot was early and it missed everything.

D'oh!
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Online John Corbett

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Re: Why didn't Clint Hill hear the first shot?
« Reply #23 on: Today at 11:29:14 AM »
You weren't able to understand the post? If you cannot figure out if Graves was right at Z124 or were you at Z150 or whatever it is, what does that say about the evidence of an early missed shot in general.

Go away, troll.

Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Why didn't Clint Hill hear the first shot?
« Reply #24 on: Today at 03:06:53 PM »
Dear Jack "Ignoramus" Nissan,

Between Z-140 and Z-150, five people in the limo, three Secret Service agents in the follow-up car, and running girl Rosemary Willis turned their heads rapidly in response to Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot at "Z-124."

Dear Jack "Ignoramus" Nessan,

Jack Ready's job was to keep an eye on JFK, not to lean over and move his head around like a bobblehead doll.

To see if JFK was okay after Oswald's first shot, Glen Bennett had to look around Dave Powers in the jump seat. That's what we see Bennett doing starting around Z-150.

One would think George Hickey's job didn't entail his bending over as though he was barfing, but that's what he did (bend over like he was barfing) starting around Z-145.

Both Ready and Hickey said the first shot sounded like a firecracker.

John Connally recognized it as a high-powered rifle shot.

Dear Jack "Ignoramus" Nessan,

The important thing is that Oswald's first shot was early and it missed everything.

D'oh!


Jack Ready's job was to keep an eye on JFK, not to lean over and move his head around like a bobblehead doll.


So, while you are sitting in your chair in front of the mirror and wiping the clown makeup from your face you come up with the idea that the Secret Service was not there to surveille the crowd but to stare at JFK in case he is shot so they can write an accurate report afterwards? Who would have thought it.

Other than point out the Secret Service was not there to protect JFK, you have not supplied one scintilla of evidence of an early missed shot. Absolutely nothing, but don't let that stop you from pretending it is all true.


Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Why didn't Clint Hill hear the first shot?
« Reply #25 on: Today at 03:13:52 PM »
Go away, troll.

I am not going anywhere. Laughing at and pointing out how stupid the concept of an early missed shot really is, brightens mundane days.

My new favorite post is how reliant you are on the Zapruder Film for knowledge, but you aren't even able to determine when the early missed shot took place. It just did.

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Re: Why didn't Clint Hill hear the first shot?
« Reply #26 on: Today at 03:16:53 PM »
I am not going anywhere. Laughing at and pointing out how stupid the concept of an early missed shot really is, brightens mundane days.

My new favorite post is how reliant you are on the Zapruder Film for knowledge, but you aren't even able to determine when the early missed shot took place. It just did.

Troll

Offline Steve Barber

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Re: Why didn't Clint Hill hear the first shot?
« Reply #27 on: Today at 03:53:48 PM »
Does anyone else have a different theory as to why some of the occupants of either limo did not seem to hear or react to Oswald's early missed shot.

Because there wasn't one.

 Yes there was.  According to John Connally.  On the CBS news special "The Warren Report", Connally clearly states that just after the turn onto Elm Street he heard a rifle shot, and turned to his right.  This statement alone proves there was an early shot. He said he didn't hear the shot that hit him, which would be the 2nd shot, which struck both he and President Kennedy.  He heard the 3rd and final shot and felt the results of it.  So Connally heard a total of 2 shots.  Furthermore, evidence that backs up Connally's statements of the earlier shot are the quick, 1/4 of a second head turn he made.  Connally was looking to his right, turned to look to his left, and SUDDENLY snaps his head back to his right, and his head remains in that position until he changes his position for the first time since head turn to the right in 1/4 of a second in frame 224 pf the Zapruder film.  He gaze to the right is transfixed until his face becomes distorted when he's struck around frame 222.  This is all captured in the Zapruder film.
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