Mary Woodward said there were 3 shots and the 1st shot missed everything

[James Slater]

The basis of this whole argument is the Zapruder film. The chain of custody of the Zapruder film is questionable and we can talk more on that later.
Go through the testimony of everyone who was sat in the limo and cross examine it with the film.
Jackie Kennedy stated that she was looking at the crowd to her left right until the point where Kennedy was struck in the throat. Look at the frames prior to that and she is looking to her right the whole time. Why would she lie? Did she lie or was she confused?
JBC is the biggest mystery on the film that no one can quite understand in assassination research. In testimony JBC stated that at no time did he look back towards Jack Kennedy after the first shot which struck Kennedy yet on Z272 to Z288 both Nellie and John are looking at Kennedy before JBC is shot on frame Z289 and reacts to his wounds. JBC stated that while he was twisting around to see Kennedy he was then shot. The Zapruder film between Z272 and Z288 is in direct conflict with JBC.
Are John and Nellie both lying? Were they confused?

[Tom Graves]

The basis of this whole argument is the Zapruder film. The chain of custody of the Zapruder film is questionable and we can talk more on that later.
Go through the testimony of everyone who was sat in the limo and cross examine it with the film.
Jackie Kennedy stated that she was looking at the crowd to her left right until the point where Kennedy was struck in the throat. Look at the frames prior to that and she is looking to her right the whole time. Why would she lie? Did she lie or was she confused?

JBC is the biggest mystery on the film that no one can quite understand in assassination research. In testimony JBC stated that at no time did he look back towards Jack Kennedy after the first shot which struck Kennedy yet on Z272 to Z288 both Nellie and John are looking at Kennedy before JBC is shot on frame Z289 and reacts to his wounds. JBC stated that while he was twisting around to see Kennedy he was then shot. The Zapruder film between Z272 and Z288 is in direct conflict with JBC.

Are John and Nellie both lying? Were they confused?

They were confused, as was everyone else who witnessed the traumatic assassination in the echo chamber known as Dealey Plaza.

And you're confused, too. You just don't realize it.

[Tom Graves]

Jackie Kennedy stated that she was looking at the crowd to her left right until the point where Kennedy was struck in the throat. Look at the frames prior to that and she is looking to her right the whole time. Why would she lie? Did she lie or was she confused?

Jackie was already looking to her left at Z-143 when she started turning her head a bit farther and was photographically "captured" with a concerned look on her face in Robert Croft's Z-161 photo.

Around Z-175 she started turning her head to her right.

In Z-180, we can discern that she's looking straight ahead or a little to her right.

In Z-190, about two seconds before JFK is hit in the lower neck/upper back by CE-399, she's looking far to her right -- as is JFK, who's waving to Mary Woodward and her three journalism colleagues. (Woodward did say in her 11/23/63 Dallas Morning News article that both JFK and Jackie turned and waved to them.)

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z190.jpg

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/

Note: JFK had turned his head quickly and consciously to his left in Z-144 in response to Oswald's early, missing-everything, shot.

[James Slater]

They were confused, as was everyone else who witnessed the traumatic assassination in the echo chamber known as Dealey Plaza.

And you're confused, too. You just don't realize it.

My state of mind has nothing to do with assassination research and nothing to do with where people were looking in testimony and on film. Stop your fascination with me and discuss the subject at hand shall we?
let's have an hypothetical shall we?
Imagine there has been a murder on an high street and 100 people were watching. All 100 people in testimony stated that John Doe walked right up to Jane Doe and shot her in the head then ran south. Then a man turns up with a video tape and on the tape is footage of not John Doe shooting Jane Doe but instead it shows Jane Doe shooting herself and then John Doe runs south.
The man who turned up with the film has no idea of the chain of custody, he doesn't know who had it before him or if it had been tampered with.
The case goes to the high court and the jury is left in a difficult situation. 100 people of sound mind stipulate John Doe shot Jane Doe but the tape shows otherwise. Does the jury question the chain of custody of the tape, regard it as inadmissible and believe 100 people OR does the jury call 100 people liars and go with the tape?
What would you do Tom as a jury member?

[Tom Graves]

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You wrote the following in your previous post:

"Jackie Kennedy stated that she was looking at the crowd to her left right until the point where Kennedy was struck in the throat. Look at the frames prior to that and she is looking to her right the whole time. Why would she lie? Did she lie or was she confused?"

My reply, in case you missed it:

Jackie was already looking to her left at Z-143 when she started turning her head a bit farther and was photographically "captured," with a concerned look on her face, in Robert Croft's Z-161 photo.

Around Z-175 she started turning her head to her right.

In Z-180, we can see that she's looking straight ahead or a little to her right.

In Z-190, about two seconds before JFK is hit in the lower neck/upper back by CE-399, she's looking far to her right -- as is JFK, who's waving to Mary Woodward and her three journalism colleagues. (Woodward did say in her 11/23/63 Dallas Morning News article that both JFK and Jackie turned and waved to them.)

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z190.jpg

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/

Note: JFK had turned his head quickly and consciously to his left in Z-144 in response to Oswald's early, missing-everything, shot.

[James Slater]

You wrote the following in your previous post:

"Jackie Kennedy stated that she was looking at the crowd to her left right until the point where Kennedy was struck in the throat. Look at the frames prior to that and she is looking to her right the whole time. Why would she lie? Did she lie or was she confused?"

My reply, in case you missed it:

Jackie was already looking to her left at Z-143 when she started turning her head a bit farther and was photographically "captured," with a concerned look on her face, in Robert Croft's Z-161 photo.

Around Z-175 she started turning her head to her right.

In Z-180, we can see that she's looking straight ahead or a little to her right.

In Z-190, about two seconds before JFK is hit in the lower neck/upper back by CE-399, she's looking far to her right -- as is JFK, who's waving to Mary Woodward and her three journalism colleagues. (Woodward did say in her 11/23/63 Dallas Morning News article that both JFK and Jackie turned and waved to them.)

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z190.jpg

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/

Answer my question about the hypothetical in my last post and we'll go from there. Don't side track it, just answer it as if you were a jury member.

[Tom Graves]

Answer my question about the hypothetical in my last post and we'll go from there. Don't side track it, just answer it as if you were a jury member.

I'm not going to get involved in your inane games, Slater.

You asked a question about Jackie, and I answered you.

If you'll actually read my answer and look at the pertinent Zapruder frames, you might even, despite your agonizing cognitive dissonance, actually learn something.