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Online Andrew Mason

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Re: Mary Woodward said there were 3 shots and the 1st shot missed everything
« Reply #140 on: August 15, 2026, 05:15:45 AM »
The point is, Mason thinks (sic) JFK was wounded about 2.2 seconds earlier than Z-224 - Z-225, and that JBC was wounded about 2.6 seconds after Z-224 - Z-225.

LOL!

Secret Service Agent Paul Landis, who heard only the second (approx. Z-224) and third (Z-313) shots, correctly said there were "four or five" seconds between them.

Interestingly, he didn't hear Mason's mythological shot at Z-273.

The changes in JBC - his sudden right twist and start of his forward motion and the sudden change in appearance of his right wrist, hand and hat occur between z271 and z272. There is also forward movement of the left sunvisor above Greer’s head between the same two frames.

Everyone in Dealey Plaza heard the second shot.  Not all were counting them.

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The time interval between Mason's Z-273 and Z-313 is about 2.2 seconds.

Between z271-272 to z313 is a spacing of 2.24 to 2.95 seconds.

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I personally would not describe a two-point-two-second time interval as "bang-bang," "clap-clap," "one-upon-the-other," or "immediately following," etc., but as, "pretty quickly," or "a second or two later," etc., etc.

Rhetorical question:

How many of the earwitnesses who made statements about the length of the interval between the fatal head shot and the shot that proceeded it characterized said interval as being in the former "pretty quickly" category, and how many said it was in the latter "bang-bang" one?

It seems to me that those who said "bang-bang" were fooled by the echoes in Dealey Plaza, and those who said "pretty quickly" (or words to that effect) were actually describing the approximately five seconds between Z-224(ish) and Z-313.
Almost all of the ear witnesses described clearly spaced shots. As Zapruder described, there was tremendous reverberation that persisted for some time.
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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Mary Woodward said there were 3 shots and the 1st shot missed everything
« Reply #141 on: August 15, 2026, 07:41:35 AM »
Between Z-271 / Z-272 to Z-313 is a spacing of 2.24 to 2.95 seconds.

Huh?

Online John Corbett

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Re: Mary Woodward said there were 3 shots and the 1st shot missed everything
« Reply #142 on: August 15, 2026, 11:27:58 AM »
Between z271-272 to z313 is a spacing of 2.24 to 2.95 seconds.

Your math skills are as bad as your analytical skills. From Z271 to Z313 is 42 frames. At 18.3 fps, that comes out to 2.30 seconds rounded up to two decimal positions.

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Your math skills are as bad as your analytical skills. From Z271 to Z313 is 42 frames. At 18.3 fps, that comes out to 2.30 seconds rounded up to two decimal positions.
Thanks for the correction. I meant 2.295.

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Thanks for the correction. I meant 2.295.

Did you go to the trouble of correcting my "about 2.2 seconds" "to 2.295 seconds" to give Oswald more time to get off a shot between Z-273 and Z-313?

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Thanks for the correction. I meant 2.295.

An easy enough mistake tp make. Now let's talk about your analytical skills. The FBI determined it required 2.3 seconds to fire an aimed shot with the Carcano. We are supposed to believe Oswald firing the rifle as fast as humanly possible delivered a deadly accurate head shot.


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Did you go to the trouble of correcting my "about 2.2 seconds" "to 2.295 seconds" to give Oswald more time to get off a shot between Z-273 and Z-313?
No. I was correcting your statement that I suggested z273 as the time of the second shot. I have consistently placed the second shot between z271-272.  At z273 JFK’s hair on the right side is already flying up, which Hickey said occurred on the second shot. The change in JBC’s wrist and hat as well as the beginning of his forward motion occurs between z271-272.