Mary Woodward said there were 3 shots and the 1st shot missed everything

[Andrew Mason]

You have proposed that JFK was hit by the first shot around Z193. Moving that shot 3 frames, 1/6 second, doesn't move that from absurd to reasonable.

I think you missed the point. My point had nothing to do with whether the first shot was at z190 or z193.  I was simply questioning how the HSCA could be arguing that the reaction of JFK at z226 could be a neuromuscular reaction to a wound that they found occurred 2 seconds earlier.

[Tom Graves]

I think you missed the point. My point had nothing to do with whether the first shot was at z190 or z193.  I was simply questioning how the HSCA could be arguing that the reaction of JFK at z226 could be a neuromuscular reaction to a wound that they found occurred 2 seconds earlier.

The HSCA should have disregarded the so-called "acoustical evidence" and the so-called "camera blur" evidence and concluded that JFK (and JBC) were both hit by the same bullet around Z-222.

Oh yeah, and that JFK reacted to being shot more quickly than JBC did.

[John Corbett]

The HSCA should have disregarded the so-called "acoustical evidence" and the so-called "camera blur" evidence and concluded that JFK (and JBC) were both hit by the same bullet around Z-222.

Oh yeah, and that JFK reacted to being shot more quickly than JBC did.

Not true. JFK und JBC both flipped their arms upward at the same instant. Z226, less than 1/4 second after they were both struck.

[Tom Graves]

Not true. JFK und JBC both flipped their arms upward at the same instant. Z226, less than 1/4 second after they were both struck.

Is screwed up by wining in my first sentence what the HSCA should have concluded and writing in my second sentence what it did conclude -- that JFK and JBC were both hit by the same bullet in Z-190, they both somehow had approximately two-second-long delayed reactions, and JFK reacted a little more quickly than JBC.

[Andrew Mason]

The HSCA should have disregarded the so-called "acoustical evidence" and the so-called "camera blur" evidence and concluded that JFK (and JBC) were both hit by the same bullet around Z-222.

Oh yeah, and that JFK reacted to being shot more quickly than JBC did.

So you are conceding that since the HSCA concluded that the shot that struck JFK in the back was at z190, the HSCA did not state that the reactions of either JFK or JBC at and after z226 were neuromuscular reactions, right?

[Tom Graves]

So, you are conceding that since the HSCA concluded that the shot that struck JFK in the back was at z190, the HSCA did not state that the reactions of either JFK or JBC at and after z226 were neuromuscular reactions, right?

The main reasons the HSCA mistakenly "concluded" that Oswald's second shot was at Z-190 instead of at the Warren Commission's Z-210 to Z-225 were because the late-arriving so-called acoustical "evidence" totally fooled it, because it mistakenly believed that Zapruder had filmed the whole assassination, and because it didn't realize that Oswald's first shot was very early and missed everything.

The reason the HSCA didn't think JFK's reaction to being hit was neuromuscular in nature was because it mistakenly believed he had been hit at Z-190, two seconds before the much more realistic Z-222, Z-223, Z-224, or Z-225.

ME: Why did the HSCA conclude that JFK was hit in the upper-back / lower-neck at approximately Z-190 instead of around Z-225?

Perplexity AI: Because the HSCA’s acoustic reconstruction placed the relevant shot near Z-190 and required enough time before the fatal Z-312 shot for Oswald’s bolt-action rifle—tested at a minimum average interval of 2.3 seconds—to fire both shots. A later first-hit frame would compress the interval too much.

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LOL!

PS The only thing I concede is that, IMHO, you're a total jerk.

[Andrew Mason]

The reason the HSCA didn't think JFK's reaction to being hit was neuromuscular in nature was because it mistakenly believed he had been hit at Z-190, two seconds before the much more realistic Z-222, Z-223, Z-224, or Z-225.

That is the only point I was making.