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Re: How Mrs. Connally Described Her Husband Being Shot-HSCA
« Reply #21 on: Today at 08:58:09 AM »
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I am the first to concede that identifying the exact frame JBC is shot...well, I am guessing.

JBC's mouth gapes open after Z-295, maybe toward Z-300 or later, as if he is in pain.

Humans take more than one-tenth of a second to register pain, generally, or so I have read.

Mrs. Connally's face is somewhat obscured, and, of course, this is a blurry home movie we are watching.

She seems to turn towards JBC after Z-300.

Maybe Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman and SS agent Kellerman were correct: The second two audible shots were in close sequence. They were both familiar with firearms, and seemed to lack any axes to grind.

Just IMHO.

 

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Re: How Mrs. Connally Described Her Husband Being Shot-HSCA
« Reply #22 on: Today at 12:18:37 PM »
AM--

I am the first to concede that identifying the exact frame JBC is shot...well, I am guessing.

JBC's mouth gapes open after Z-295, maybe toward Z-300 or later, as if he is in pain.

Humans take more than one-tenth of a second to register pain, generally, or so I have read.

Mrs. Connally's face is somewhat obscured, and, of course, this is a blurry home movie we are watching.

She seems to turn towards JBC after Z-300.

Maybe Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman and SS agent Kellerman were correct: The second two audible shots were in close sequence. They were both familiar with firearms, and seemed to lack any axes to grind.

Just IMHO.

 

It's a good thing for Andrew Mason that you're around or otherwise he would have the dumbest theory about when JBC was shot. He should pray for you everyday.

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Re: How Mrs. Connally Described Her Husband Being Shot-HSCA
« Reply #23 on: Today at 02:14:05 PM »
It's a good thing for Andrew Mason that you're around or otherwise he would have the dumbest theory about when JBC was shot. He should pray for you everyday.
I am just saying what the evidence says. Is JBC saying he was hit on the second shot a ”theory” or is that simply evidence? Is JBC turning right in response to the first shot a theory, or is it just evidence?

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Re: How Mrs. Connally Described Her Husband Being Shot-HSCA
« Reply #24 on: Today at 02:43:06 PM »
I am just saying what the evidence says. Is JBC saying he was hit on the second shot a ”theory” or is that simply evidence? Is JBC turning right in response to the first shot a theory, or is it just evidence?

JBC was hit by the seconds shot. So was JFK. And it didn't take 48 frames for the bullet to pass from JFK's throat to JBC's back.

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Re: How Mrs. Connally Described Her Husband Being Shot-HSCA
« Reply #25 on: Today at 05:47:34 PM »
Nothing in the Z-file indicates either of the Connallys were looking at JFK when either the first or second shot was fired so how could either know which bullet struck him?
If: 1. the second shot was not as the shot pattern witnesses described the spacing, and 2. the 25 witnesses who reported JFK reacting to the first shot were wrong and JBC was hit by the second shot and 3. Altgens was wrong that his z255 photo was after the first shot. 4. Phil Willis was wrong that the first shot was just before z202 5. Nellie was wrong that she was looking at JFK and turned to look at JBC at the moment she heard the second shot and that she did not look at JFK after the second shot. etc.
Then: you could be right.

If ALL of those witnesses are not wrong, the zfilm does show that JBC was turned around and Nellie was looking at JFK when the second shot occurred and turned to look at JBC the moment she heard it and reached out and pulled him down to her lap.

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JBC not being shot until Z295 doesn't remotely line up with anything in the Z-film.
I agree with that.  There is no way that a shot from anywhere outside the car could have caused his chest wound at that point.
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Re: How Mrs. Connally Described Her Husband Being Shot-HSCA
« Reply #26 on: Today at 06:01:51 PM »
If: 1. the second shot was not as the shot pattern witnesses described the spacing, and 2. the 25 witnesses who reported JFK reacting to the first shot were wrong and JBC was hit by the second shot and 3. Altgens was wrong that his z255 photo was after the first shot. 4. Phil Willis was wrong that the first shot was just before z202 5. Nellie was wrong that she was looking at JFK and turned to look at JBC at the moment she heard the second shot and that she did not look at JFK after the second shot. etc.
Then: you could be right.

If ALL of those witnesses are not wrong, the zfilm does show that JBC was turned around and Nellie was looking at JFK when the second shot occurred and turned to look at JBC the moment she heard it and reached out and pulled him down to her lap.
I agree with that.  There is no way that a shot from anywhere outside the car could have caused his chest wound at that point.

Which means you are just a bit less crazy than Benjamin Cole.