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Re: DiEugenio Promotes Prayer Man Scam To Congress
« Reply #63 on: Yesterday at 02:20:39 AM »
Frazier saying Stanton was deepest in to the shadows on the front steps...

Stanton not being seen to Frazier's left in Altgens 6 and the first frames of Wiegman...

The Hughes Film showing Stanton up behind Lovelady in the Prayer Man spot...

Stanton in Owens matching Prayer Man's height...

The Davidson Enhancement showing Stanton's chubby face on Prayer Man in Wiegman...

And the 6th Floor Museum's 1st generation copy of Darnell showing a dress neckline on Prayer Man all pretty much cinch it...

 How about we start with your very 1st claim above? What is the SOURCE and WHEN did Frazier say that Stanton was deepest in to the shadows on the front steps. Frazier's story has changed many times over the years.

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« Reply #64 on: Yesterday at 02:33:57 AM »


Minute mark 40:52 -

Frazier ends the issue...

Totally ignored by the Prayer Man cheaters...

When Frazier remembers talking to Stanton after Calvery shouted they have shot the president he shifts his body language and eyes to his right...
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Re: DiEugenio Promotes Prayer Man Scam To Congress
« Reply #65 on: Yesterday at 10:38:56 AM »

Doyle: "At the 40:52 mark when Frazier mentions talking to Stanton after Calvery shouted, "They've shot the president!" he shifts his body language and eyes to his right." (paraphrased)


ME:

He's constantly turning his head to his right to talk into the microphone and look at the audience.

Why does he say he walked down to the front step?

It seems as though his story is always changing.
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« Reply #66 on: Yesterday at 02:16:59 PM »

As he's recounting he has the memory in his mind...When he says "Sarah, the lady I was standing by up on the top step back in the shadows" his head shifts to the right towards the Prayer Man position to his right...

The scene Buell is describing is the post scene to Gloria Calvery running back to the steps in hysteria after seeing JFK's brains blown out at close range..."We looked at each other (he and Sarah Stanton) and we really didn't have much to say...and we stood down there a little while right by the entrance"...

This scene being described by Buell is exactly what you see in the Couch/Darnell clip...It shows Frazier and Stanton staring at each other not saying anything exactly as Buell described in the video...We know this is correct because a man named Thomas Graves and myself did extensive analysis 8 years ago and identified Gloria Calvery's green plaid skirt on the lady climbing the steps right below Frazier...

The Darnell scene shows that just to Frazier's left the sun peeks around the west column of the portal and shines in to the entranceway...So when Frazier remembers Stanton and himself being "back in the shadows" he is talking about the area cast in shadow that he is standing in and to his right...Altgens 6 shows us that the sun zone starts just to Frazier's left and, if indeed those who say Stanton is to Frazier's left were correct, then we would see Stanton there...One look at the first frames of Wiegman shows us that there is nothing to Frazier's left but empty space and then Lovelady in the sun...Stancak tried to show wisps of ghosts behind Lovelady & Shelley claiming they were Stanton, but they were just Stancak proving that Stanton wasn't to Frazier's left...The first frames of Wiegman show that there is nobody behind Lovelady and Shelley except Pauline Sanders...

I'm not sure why Frazier said he walked down to the first step...He might be talking about his trip up to the Knoll or he might be talking about moving towards the edge of the top platform...All that really matters is that Frazier is standing and staring at Prayer Man in Couch/Darnell at the exact time that Frazier mentioned standing and staring at Stanton in several statements and interviews...In another statement Frazier said he did not understand what Calvery shouted so he turned towards Stanton with a puzzled look on his face...Frazier said Stanton then said "I think she said the president has been shot"...Frazier then added "We then stood and stared at each other in shock for the longest time"...This is exactly what you see Frazier and Stanton doing in Couch/Darnell...

The 6th Floor Museum 1st generation copy of Darnell shows Stanton's dress neckline on Prayer Man at this exact time...Larry Schnapf posted on the Education Forum that he was not going to obtain that copy...

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Re: DiEugenio Promotes Prayer Man Scam To Congress
« Reply #67 on: Yesterday at 03:00:33 PM »


Minute mark 40:52 -

Frazier ends the issue...

Totally ignored by the Prayer Man cheaters...

When Frazier remembers talking to Stanton after Calvery shouted they have shot the president he shifts his body language and eyes to his right...

   Thanks for the post above. Just my opinion, but to me Frazier has always seemed like a very Odd Duck. He's the kid in high school getting a "Wedgie". As an adult, I agree that his 11/22/63 story has changed several times. My generic acid test regarding an adult is, "Would I let this person babysit my kid?". With respect to Frazier, the answer is a very quick, "No Way"!
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« Reply #68 on: Yesterday at 05:53:35 PM »

I called the clerk at the Culpepper, Virginia National Audio Visual Preservation Center and he told me they only handle NBC's entertainment films...He told me the Wiegman and Darnell films were News so they would be stored at the Bergen, New Jersey NBC warehouse...

Schnapf already did the foot work on this and they told him the films weren't there...However I suspect whoever looked for the films went to the storage shelf for those films, didn't see them, and simply told Schnapf or Luna that they didn't have the films...

Oliver Stone's technical producer Rob Wilson told me the current digital files of the Wiegman and Darnell Films in NBC's possession were scanned off the original films when they made the digital files...What that means is someone at NBC handled the original films when they made those digital files...Those people are probably on record and probably could be contacted to ask them about the location of those original films...Those employees would have much more direct knowledge of the films since they were the last to handle them...Even though this is the best information in obtaining the films, because it originates from me the banning/ignoring savages are making sure that it gets ignored and no action is taken on it...Rob Wilson has the clout through Stone to probably get some action out of NBC in approaching them for the names of the digital file-makers...It is gross malfeasance and incompetence to NOT do so...

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Re: DiEugenio Promotes Prayer Man Scam To Congress
« Reply #69 on: Yesterday at 06:34:54 PM »
I called the clerk at the Culpepper, Virginia National Audio Visual Preservation Center and he told me they only handle NBC's entertainment films...He told me the Wiegman and Darnell films were News so they would be stored at the Bergen, New Jersey NBC warehouse...

Schnapf already did the foot work on this and they told him the films weren't there...However I suspect whoever looked for the films went to the storage shelf for those films, didn't see them, and simply told Schnapf or Luna that they didn't have the films...

Oliver Stone's technical producer Rob Wilson told me the current digital files of the Wiegman and Darnell Films in NBC's possession were scanned off the original films when they made the digital files...What that means is someone at NBC handled the original films when they made those digital files...Those people are probably on record and probably could be contacted to ask them about the location of those original films...Those employees would have much more direct knowledge of the films since they were the last to handle them...Even though this is the best information in obtaining the films, because it originates from me the banning/ignoring savages are making sure that it gets ignored and no action is taken on it...Rob Wilson has the clout through Stone to probably get some action out of NBC in approaching them for the names of the digital file-makers...It is gross malfeasance and incompetence to NOT do so...

  NBC has sequestered the Original Wiegman and Darnell Films for 62+ yrs for a reason.  Remember that for decades the Wiegman Film was ballyhoo'd as being filmed "continuously". Then it was "revealed" that it was Not filmed "continuously". Well, maybe it actually was filmed "continuously". There is no footage when Wiegman was running (W) parallel to Zapruder with the Shelter in the background. And, there is no footage of when Wiegman ran down the knoll. In "Pictures Of The Pain", Wiegman says that he saw SA Lem Johns up the knoll. SA Johns claims that he jumped out of the LBJ SS Car and was then stranded on Elm St. He claims he never left the street. There are NO IMAGES of SA Lem Johns ever being on Elm St. The  Original Darnell will reveal the Bogus DPD Cop. Nobody sits on anything for 62+ yrs just because they can. There's a reason. 
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