DiEugenio Promotes Prayer Man Scam To Congress

[Brian Doyle]

Doudna learned a lot of what he knows from myself without crediting me...He enjoys the benefit of appearing as if the material originates from himself because of my being censored and unable to comment in all the places where it is posted...The Altgens 6 frame shows the people across the top platform of the front steps fairly clearly...From left to right they are Lovelady, Sanders, Shelley, and Molina...The first frames of Wiegman were taken at about the same time as Altgens 6 from a 90 degree perspective to Altgens 6...This stereoscopic cross perspective enables a view of the areas between the people on the top platform...The first frames of Wiegman show nothing but empty space between Lovelady and Frazier at the time of Altgens 6...This proves that the Dutch promoter's claim that Stanton is to Frazier's left is wrong...If Stanton were to Frazier's left you would see her there in either Altgens or Wiegman...

Pat Speer claimed that I stole my claim that Prayer Man was a woman from him...Anyone who reads my stuff knows that is preposterous, as Richard Gilbride can attest...Speer gloated when I was segregated...

[Lance Payette]

Prayer Person was one of my first real epiphanies that "something is wrong with these people."

Early on, after the principal Prayer Person thread was already going strong, I joined by asking sincerely "In what alternate universe and by what alternate logic could the patsy POSSIBLY be allowed to be standing on the steps of the TSBD when he was supposed to be shooting from the sixth floor??? How can this POSSIBLY make any sense to ANYONE???"

I was truly befuddled, because it seemed to be making sense to lots of people.

I got two responses:

From several people: If it can be shown to be Oswald, it doesn't matter whether it makes any sense. The only relevant question is whether it's Oswald.

From Sandy Larsen: It was a message by the conspirators. We are so completely in control that WE DON'T EVEN CARE if the patsy is out front on the steps. Don't mess with us, because that's how powerful we are.

Ten years later, I still didn't get the whole Prayer Person thing:

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,4578.msg170377.html#msg170377

Somehow I find it oddly comforting that Prayer Person still makes sense to MTG. 

[Duncan MacRae]

FWIW: Cropped And Enhanced From A Chris Davidson frame 2017

[Brian Doyle]

I have a better image but I can't seem to work the image feature...

[Tom Scully]

Prayer Man is not a scam, not by a longshot. 

Prayer Man cannot be Sarah Stanton, because the Large-Framed Figure standing on Buell Wesley Frazier's left is Sarah Stanton. Frazier himself said Stanton was standing on his left. Pauline Sanders also said Sarah Stanton was standing on Frazier's left. The figure on Frazier's right is Prayer Man.

Greg Doudna and Andre Stancak, two very careful researchers, have examined this issue in great detail. I first quote from some of Doudna's research on the subject:

It is astonishing to me that I do not see prior proposals that Large-Framed Figure (LFF) to Frazier's immediate left, in the Darnell film, is Sarah Stanton. The width of LFF's body frame corresponds to Sarah Stanton's obesity. The height of LFF at 5'6" (hair included) agrees with Sarah Stanton's height. And LFF is in exactly the position that Buell Wesley Frazier said Sarah Stanton was, and Pauline Sanders said Sarah Stanton was, to Frazier's left as Frazier explicitly said (not to his right where Prayer Man was)--no, LFF is exactly where Frazier located Sarah Stanton to his immediate left, with whom Frazier exchanged words back and forth as she stood next to him. Large-Framed Figure is exactly a match to Sarah Stanton. . . .

It is usually assumed that the Prayer Man photograph in Wiegman was taken a few seconds before the fatal head shot of JFK of Z312. While that may be correct, it is possible that photograph was taken an unknown number of seconds after the shots were fired, according to a technical analysis of Stancak although Stancak does not draw a post-Z312 Wiegman conclusion directly. Stancak presents an argument that there was frames removal of some sort in the Zapruder film on the basis of comparison with two checkpoints in Wiegman, and discrepancies between Altgens6 and a conventional assumption of match to the time of a frame in Wiegman. . . .

The reason this might matter is, on the one hand, Oswald said in his interrogations that he had gone to the second floor to get a coke with his lunch before the assassination, then (following that) he went out front "to watch the P. Parade" (Hosty notes) or "out with Bill Shelley in front" (Fritz notes). . . .

For according to Sarah Stanton's family, Sarah Stanton met Oswald on "the stairs", where she had "went down" from the second floor, to see the President "on the stairs".

Rosa: "That, uh--she [Sarah] said, 'I went down because they said that, uh, the--that the President was going--they were already coming, but not--not there yet.' So she wanted to prepare herself and be on the stairs--where--where she met Oswald". . . .

It is probably not correct to claim that "no one" saw Oswald out at those front steps. I have just cited two arguably credible claims from TSBD employees who said they did (in Sarah Stanton's case as remembered by her family, interpreting "stairs" as changed in the telling from Sarah Stanton's meaning of the TSBD's front steps).   

Neither of these two women, Carolyn Arnold or Sarah Stanton, were called to testify by the Warren Commission.

If Oswald was "in front" (Fritz notes) and "outside to watch P. Parade" (Hosty notes) after eating his lunch on the first floor, not only might those two women have told of seeing him there, but it might even have been captured on camera. It would be surprising if it were not captured on camera. 

This makes Bart Kamp's website and book Prayer Man: More than a Fuzzy Picture one of the most important issues in any current discussion of the JFK assassination (because if Oswald was Prayer Man, he did not assassinate President Kennedy, and that would be, to put it mildly, a game-changer, an Innocence Project genre outcome for the ages).  (https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29481-prayer-man-more-than-a-fuzzy-picture/page/17/#findComment-515283

Stancak's research can be found here:

https://thejfktruthmatters.wordpress.com//?s=oswald&search=Go

Here's an excerpt from his analysis:

Prayer Man in the full view shows two important features that shed light on his identity. In Figure 3 the yellow contour along the PrayerMan’s left face highlight his hairline. Prayer Man’s hairline shows a recess on the downward course of the hairline. Figure 3 also shows Lee Oswald’s hairline in a photograph taken during the time when he was in the custody of Dallas Police. The similarity of Prayer Man’s hairline and Lee Oswald’s hairline is uncanny and strongly supports the possibility that Prayer Man was Lee Harvey Oswald.

Another distinguishing feature on Prayer Man’s head was an oblique line running from the left eyebrow toward the hairline recession (Figure 4). The shape of this line-like feature on Prayer Man’s left temple was compared with photographs of Lee Oswald taken while he was in the custody of the Dallas Police, as well as with photos taken prior to President Kennedy’s assassination. This comparison showed that Lee Oswald had prominent forehead veins on both the left and right forehead-temple areas, with a vein pattern similar to the line-like feature on Prayer Man’s left forehead and temple.

I stress that these quotes are only a small portion of Doudna's and Stancak's research on Prayer Man. I encourage interested readers to read their analyses.

During the Durham "investigation", DiEugenio posted excitedly on the Ed Forum abouit "evidence" Barr and Durham allegedly found on a trip
to Italy where they made disinfo claims on behalf of Trump.

Representative Luna will merely end up as another Trumpist who humiliated DiEugenio.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Paulina_Luna
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Luna was subsequently elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in 2022, with the endorsement of then-former president Donald Trump in the Republican primary. Luna was re-elected in 2024.

Luna serves on the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, and the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. During her congressional tenure, Luna has maintained a conservative voting record of 98%, according to Heritage Action.[2]