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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Reasonable Doubts?
« Reply #77 on: Yesterday at 10:09:19 PM »
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There are oodles and gobs of doubts, but there are no rational doubts for the simple reason that they all have plausible explanations.

To think otherwise is to accept the ludicrous idea that oodles and gobs of evil, evil, bad guys planned the assassination, "patsied" the "patsy," planted the evidence, did the shooting, pulled off the getaway, and are STILL covering it all up after 60-plus years.
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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Reasonable Doubts?
« Reply #78 on: Yesterday at 10:39:23 PM »
Or a bullet that had tumbled 180 degrees.

 :D :D
Royell has hit the nail on the head about your Looney Tunes grasp of reality.
You are clearly unaware that you are suggesting the bullet tumbled 180 degrees, straightened up while it passed through his jacket, then resumed a-tumbling.
It is physically impossible for a bullet rotating at such an incredible speed to make such a small hole in his jacket.

In your cartoonish view of the world the bullet exits JBC's chest backwards.
It must then tumble a further 360 degrees in order to enter his wrist (and leg) backwards.
The distance it has to travel is around 12 inches/1 foot.
Let's say the bullet exiting Connally's chest is travelling around 1000 feet per second [Sturdivan estimated "somewhere between 1,100 and 1,300 feet per second, roughly."]
This means the bullet is spinning 1000 times per second!!!
 

1] Where does this incredible rotational energy come from?
2] How can a 3 cm object spinning 1000 times per second leave such a small hole?
3] What nonsense are you going to come up with next?

Online John Corbett

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Re: Reasonable Doubts?
« Reply #79 on: Yesterday at 11:36:31 PM »
   Knott Lab put the SBT to bed with FORENSIC SCIENCE that is routinely admitted in courts across this country. "Hagg team" and "experiments"?  :D

Whether it comes from Knott Laboratory or you average CT, every time I see somebody saying the SBT is an impossibility, I almost never see an explanation of why it is impossible. It's as if the CTs think it suffices to say it's impossible. I tried to google Knott Laboratory's explanation and this is all I could find:

“The shooting position, bullet exit point on President Kennedy, and entry point on Governor Connally should all be reasonably in line. When drawing this line from the sixth floor perch of the Texas Book Depository to the positions of the two men and their entry/exit points, we found a significant angle difference. This case is ongoing, but evidence strongly suggests there is more to the story in this historic event. Modern science refutes the Warren Commission’s findings on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.”

It seems to me if they really did a detailed analysis on par with what Dale Myers has done, they should have been able to come up with something a little better than the wounds didn't line up. Myers computer animation showed the wounds lining up perfectly. In the later 1980s another company, Failure Analysis using less sophisticated technology than what would become available in the coming decades. also showed the wounds line up.

Knott Laboratory's work was paid for by dedicated CT John Orr. Could it be they had a vested interrest in coming up with the conclusion they did? Just asking.

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Re: Reasonable Doubts?
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Online Lance Payette

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Re: Reasonable Doubts?
« Reply #81 on: Today at 12:04:27 AM »
I will admit that these sorts of discussions make my eyes glaze over. FWIW, Orr was not satisfied with the Knott Lab effort. Larry Schnapf said at the Ed Forum in January that an improved analysis by "Orr's team" would be ready in a month and provided to the Luna Committee. I've seen nothing further on that. Here is what Larry said in January:

John Orr's team is finalizing an improved 3D animation which is superior to the version that Knott Labs used. It will be ready by the end of the month and will be shown to representative Luna.

The criticisms of the knott Lab work product are not meritorious. The trajectory analysis was based on the positions of JBC and JFK at two precise moments in time. It is far more accurate than Myers' cartoon which misrpresented the spatial positioning of the bodies,  the relative sizes of the two men as well as the limo configuraiton. Myers' cartoon was designed to support the SBT. It is not an objective analysis. Orr's 3D model is the most accurate recreation to date.


Orr's model uses modern photogrammtery to incorporate all extent photos, precise measurements of the limo and used drone technology to scan DP even taking into account the roadway was paved several times since the assassination. John Orr has used his model test the SBT but the model can be used to test ANY trajectory. Someone just has to be willing to pay for the work to develop the trajectory. the model has all the necessary data.

Also FWIW, some of the photos on this thread are from this Texas Investigates site, which has superb photos of JBC's clothing: https://www.tsl.texas.gov/sites/default/files/public/tslac/landing/documents/jfk-damaged-clothing18.pdf

EDIT: Larry discusses the status of Orr's work on this active thread at the Ed Forum: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/32088-lone-nut-proponents-failure-to-reckon-with-alvarez-fraud/page/25/#comment-595616

Larry says he is frustrated that the work is taking so long and that they missed the Luna deadline.
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