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Re: Video: Hoffman Hill & Oliver
« Reply #28 on: Today at 03:55:28 PM »
At a cost of more than $12, I have now completed a Level 1 survey of the Lamb Chop Factoid and am satisfied that a Level 2 survey will not be necessary. Inquiries concerning a possible JFKA-affiliated blood-stained Lamb Chop puppet were made to the National Archives; the Sixth Floor Museum; the salt caves outside Lenexa, KS; the Doll Museum in Rochester, NY; the Portland (OR) Puppet Museum; and, of course, the Center for Puppetry Arts in Atlanta.

Only one formal response was received. Longtime NARA archivist Gwendolyn Forsyth was kind enough to respond by email to the effect of “WTF???”, which your intrepid factoid-buster (moi) understood to be a negative response to the inquiry. My agent in Dallas, Harrison Jesus Wadsworth, got only as far as “Hey, has anyone heard of Lamb Ch…” before he was escorted from the premises of the Sixth Floor Museum by a uniformed security guard.

An extensive survey was conducted of items and auction catalogs from the estates of both Shari Lewis (i.e., Phyllis Naomi Tarcher) and Soupy Sales (i.e., Milton Supman). The administrator of the estate of Mr. Sales, one Soupy Jesus Horowitz, directed us to YouTube clips of Mr. Sales' droll and diverting “White Fang” (see below), but in none of these hundreds of clips does anything resembling Lamb Chop appear.

I also asked my longtime colleague, Jake Jesus Maxwell, to undertake a forensic analysis of all extant images, including electron microscope scans and, of course, the use of the famed VP-8 Image Analyzer that has contributed so meaningfully to analysis of the Shroud of Turin. Mr. Maxwell identified in Mrs. Kennedy’s arms a bouquet of the perennial herbaceous flowering plant in the family Asteraceae commonly referred to as “mums” and a sprig of another Asteraceae family member commonly referred to as “asters.” (Mr. Maxwell finds it highly suspicious, as do I, that two members of the Asteraceae family “just happened” to be in the limousine at the same time, but this is a factoid for another day.)

Alas, Mr. Maxwell was unable to find Lamb Chop in whole or part in any of the extant images. He did provisionally identify a tiny gunman in the sprig of asters, but he concedes this could be a beetle (Latin Scarabaeidae, comprising some 35,000 species). In any event, this too is a factoid for another day.

Thus concludes the Level 1 survey, and the Lamb Chop Factoid is hereby classified as busted unless and until such time, if any, as compelling new information comes to light, in which case a Level 2 survey will be undertaken.

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Re: Video: Hoffman Hill & Oliver
« Reply #29 on: Today at 04:08:45 PM »
     It is Not just the Jean Hill ID of a small dog/ "Lamb Chop" the hand puppet all by itself that matters. It is that Jean Hill DID see DOWN INSIDE the JFK Limo from her vantage point on the (S) side of Elm St. And, JFK DID fall onto the backseat of the car. JFK's head being generally pointed in Hill's direction as he fell onto the same backseat that the Lamb Chop hand puppet was laying on. Specifically, the JFK (R) Temple Wound would have been exposed to her eye as he fell onto that backseat. This is yet another JFK Assassination eyewitness that held value in an important unexplored area. Both then, and just as You are doing Now.  Jean Hill seeing that small "Lamb Chop" hand puppet on the backseat, means she could have seen much, much, more inside the JFK Limo. Whether she, (or you), realized it.
     If you seriously want to solve this case, you gotta think outside of the box. You continue treading water 62+ years later

The case was solved 62 years ago. I guess you didn't get the memo.

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Re: Video: Hoffman Hill & Oliver
« Reply #30 on: Today at 04:24:56 PM »
     It is Not just the Jean Hill ID of a small dog/ "Lamb Chop" the hand puppet all by itself that matters. It is that Jean Hill DID see DOWN INSIDE the JFK Limo from her vantage point on the (S) side of Elm St. And, JFK DID fall onto the backseat of the car. JFK's head being generally pointed in Hill's direction as he fell onto the same backseat that the Lamb Chop hand puppet was laying on. Specifically, the JFK (R) Temple Wound would have been exposed to her eye as he fell onto that backseat. This is yet another JFK Assassination eyewitness that held value in an important unexplored area. Both then, and just as You are doing Now.  Jean Hill seeing that small "Lamb Chop" hand puppet on the backseat, means she could have seen much, much, more inside the JFK Limo. Whether she, (or you), realized it.
     If you seriously want to solve this case, you gotta think outside of the box. You continue treading water 62+ years later

Royell, does it ever occur to you that (1) you constantly accuse folks who have been deeply involved in the JFKA for decades of not having done their research and not being up to speed while (2) you yourself continue to propose completely absurd theories and to see things that absolutely no one else sees? Is there not a bit of a disconnect here? You always have this mysterious cadre of "high-level researchers" in the background who supposedly share your views, and you always promise far more than you and "they" ever deliver. Like more than one active participant on this forum, you are starting to sound - yes, let's say it out loud - completely insane. I would like to think that you and your fellow sanity-challenged participants were just playing a game, having fun with JFKA nonsense as I try to do, but I fear that for you and them the nonsense is serious stuff and what you actually believe. The Young Earthers and Flat Earthers make a far better case for their lunacy than you have ever made for ANYTHING. If you're serious, it's frightening. What's even more frightening is that you're far from alone.

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Re: Video: Hoffman Hill & Oliver
« Reply #31 on: Today at 04:53:18 PM »
Royell, does it ever occur to you that (1) you constantly accuse folks who have been deeply involved in the JFKA for decades of not having done their research and not being up to speed while (2) you yourself continue to propose completely absurd theories and to see things that absolutely no one else sees? Is there not a bit of a disconnect here? You always have this mysterious cadre of "high-level researchers" in the background who supposedly share your views, and you always promise far more than you and "they" ever deliver. Like more than one active participant on this forum, you are starting to sound - yes, let's say it out loud - completely insane. I would like to think that you and your fellow sanity-challenged participants were just playing a game, having fun with JFKA nonsense as I try to do, but I fear that for you and them the nonsense is serious stuff and what you actually believe. The Young Earthers and Flat Earthers make a far better case for their lunacy than you have ever made for ANYTHING. If you're serious, it's frightening. What's even more frightening is that you're far from alone.

    Try and confine your "observations" to 29:30. People want to swear by the JFK Assassination "Images", until they don't. As Detective Joe Friday used to say when questioning an eyewitness, "Just the FACTS, just the FACTS". What do you See on your frame-by-frame examination of 29:30? 

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Re: Video: Hoffman Hill & Oliver
« Reply #32 on: Today at 04:59:43 PM »
The case was solved 62 years ago. I guess you didn't get the memo.

   I ask you to look "outside of the box", and instead you give me the hackneyed, "you didn't get the memo". You make my point for me.

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Re: Video: Hoffman Hill & Oliver
« Reply #33 on: Today at 05:15:09 PM »
   I ask you to look "outside of the box", and instead you give me the hackneyed, "you didn't get the memo". You make my point for me.

After using the hackneyed expression "outside of the box", you complain about me responding in kind. That's funny.
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