Released Videos From The Pentagon's First Batch Of UFO Files

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Offline Duncan MacRae

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Re: Released Videos From The Pentagon's First Batch Of UFO Files
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 03:15:24 PM »
Since I have a de facto Ph.D. in UFO Studies after 60+ years of intense involvement and one distinctly non-mundane close-up encounter, I will say that I think the current UAP Disclosure movement is completely misguided to the extent it focuses almost exclusively on nuts-and-bolts craft, supposed crashes and supposed retrieved bodies. Among those of us who have been involved in the field for decades, this is viewed as just about the least likely of the numerous alternative explanations. Whatever the UFO phenomenon (or phenomena) is (or are), the explanation is almost surely something far stranger than this. I personally believe that most of what is observed and photographed is staged - i.e., an intended distraction from what the phenomenon is really all about. Jacques Vallee's notion that it's a "control system" of some sort is probably the closest to the truth. (As mentioned previously, I attended the 1989 MUFON annual conference in Las Vegas where wackos William Cooper and John Lear made their case that JFK was killed - by either Hickey or Greer, as I recall - because he was about to reveal the Alien Secret. So there's the JFK angle that wacky old Douglas Caddy still accepts.)

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« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 03:16:09 PM »
Forgive me if I don't get excited about all this UFO and alien nonsense. Last night Neil DeGrasse Tyson expressed the same thought I have had for years. Just because we don't know what these objects are, it's completely irrational to assume they are extraterrestrial visitors. I suspect some are simply optical illusions or misidentified objects. One of the clips I saw was of a small white object flying above the roofs of buildings in an urban setting. Maybe somebody was flying a drone. Some of the sighting near Roswell New Mexico could be experimental aircraft which of course the Air Force would want to keep top secret.

I find it pretty absurd to think that the unidentified flying objects could be visitors from other solar systems given the distances involved. During the first Cosmos series, Dr. Carl Sagan made the point that it is not possible to fly faster than the speed of light. You could theoretically come close, but not reach or exceed it. The nearest star is over four light years away and our deep space telescopes have given us no indication of life there.

I don't doubt there is life elsewhere in our vast universe and some of it might well be intelligent life. Such intelligent life might be well ahead or way behind our species in development. They are still bound by the cosmic speed limit. Even if they were capable of interstellar travel, what reason would they have to visit the third rock from the sun? Why would they come all this way and then play hide and seek with us.
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Re: Released Videos From The Pentagon's First Batch Of UFO Files
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 04:30:36 PM »

  What is the closest "final frontier"? The OCEAN BOTTOM. The area off the San Diego/Calif coast has been a hotbed for this strange "craft" activity. These crafts are Not traveling light years to then just cruise around the Earth. They are here, have been here, and use Earth to extract the mineral(s) they need. These crafts that are doing all of that crazy sh*t are not being fueled by Chevron Unleaded.

    History Channel's,"The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch", Season 7 debuts May 19. The US Govt/Robert Bigelow was using that Mesa in the same vein that we saw on "Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind". Underground, there is also a "subway" type of entry/exit. When these clowns are looking into the sky and firing rockets up there, it's time to turn the channel. Whatever remains from that Skinwalker Ranch time period is inside that Mesa and underground.   

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Re: Released Videos From The Pentagon's First Batch Of UFO Files
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 10:06:24 PM »
No such things as Aliens....except illegal. "UFO's" are nothing more than the military testing new craft.

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« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 10:26:21 PM »
Not that I care, but we have two responses that reflect an almost complete lack of familiarity with the history and scope of the UFO phenomenon. Anyone familiar with the, say, 1000 best UFO cases - multiple trained and credible witnesses, radar confirmation, physical effects and traces - could not possibly make the dismissive comments we see here.

I won't beat my own peewee encounter to death since I've previously described it, but:

1. I was in the company of a diehard skeptic who was a good friend but thought all varieties of woo-woo were nonsense - and he just about wet his knickers.
2. The encounter was during daylight hours.
3. The UFO was no more than 75 or so yards away and fully visible for 30-40 seconds.
4. Without a word to each other, we both instantly recognized that this was something weird and troubling.
5. There were commonly reported "psychic aftereffects" that confirmed for me that this was no mundane encounter.

I could easily jump on the "ET" bandwagon, but I don't believe this is what it was. The ET explanation doesn't mesh with all the facts of those 1000 best cases (and mine) any better than "optical illusion" or "sooper-dooper miltary technology." The 1000 best cases include UFOs doing unbelievable and even physically impossible things when sooper-dooper military technology still had propellers.

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Re: Released Videos From The Pentagon's First Batch Of UFO Files
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 11:16:57 PM »
Not that I care, but we have two responses that reflect an almost complete lack of familiarity with the history and scope of the UFO phenomenon. Anyone familiar with the, say, 1000 best UFO cases - multiple trained and credible witnesses, radar confirmation, physical effects and traces - could not possibly make the dismissive comments we see here.

I won't beat my own peewee encounter to death since I've previously described it, but:

1. I was in the company of a diehard skeptic who was a good friend but thought all varieties of woo-woo were nonsense - and he just about wet his knickers.
2. The encounter was during daylight hours.
3. The UFO was no more than 75 or so yards away and fully visible for 30-40 seconds.
4. Without a word to each other, we both instantly recognized that this was something weird and troubling.
5. There were commonly reported "psychic aftereffects" that confirmed for me that this was no mundane encounter.

I could easily jump on the "ET" bandwagon, but I don't believe this is what it was. The ET explanation doesn't mesh with all the facts of those 1000 best cases (and mine) any better than "optical illusion" or "sooper-dooper miltary technology." The 1000 best cases include UFOs doing unbelievable and even physically impossible things when sooper-dooper military technology still had propellers.

Physical laws apply all over the cosmos. Nothing can be done that is physically impossible. Just because someone can't explain what they saw doesn't mean there isn't an explanation. It means the explanation isn't known.