Zapruder film "fakery" and the ED Forum Kooks!

[Zeon Mason]

   And you also forgot the HSCA "4th shot". This is what happens when you present only hand picked portions of a story. That story is quickly dismantled piece-by-piece.

And Amos Euins said he heard 4 shots. He is a major close up witness who not only heard the shots but was looking AT the shooter AS the shooter fired the rifle.

And  Amos said the shooter was sticking the rifle OUT the window and yet Amos saw no scope on the rifle.

But Arnold Rowland from a block away , DID see a scope on the rifle in the hands of some person at the SW 6th floor at 12:15.

Eagle Eye Rowland  however completely missed seeing the SE window shooter sticking a rifle out the window while Amos was watching the shooter at 12:30.

So these witness DRIVE me crazy lolz

[John Mytton]

  Hey John - Have you viewed the higher def Current Z Film(s) posted on You Tube? I have 1 that I prefer, and it clearly shows JFK being HIT with such force that he is PROPELLED BACKWARD into the backrest. JFK is hit with such force the he literally bounces off of the backrest and then falls to the (L) like a tree that has just been cut down.
                  We can argue the bona fides of the Current Z Film, but even hi def copies of that clearly display the impact of a Front (R) shot. The lower def Z Film copies are like watching anything on an old SD Broadcast/TV. Just think back to the stark difference between broadcast SD vs HD. This is why Bart Kamp continues gaining attention. He is posting better definition images. The Current Z Film images being posted on this Forum are outdated. Even the Z Film images that you are posting has all kinds of crappola consistently flying through it. That's a dead giveaway that this "material" dates way back.
                     

  Hey John - Have you viewed the higher def Current Z Film(s) posted on You Tube? I have 1 that I prefer, and it clearly shows JFK being HIT with such force that he is PROPELLED BACKWARD into the backrest. JFK is hit with such force the he literally bounces off of the backrest and then falls to the (L) like a tree that has just been cut down.

JohnC is right, you've been watching too much Dirty Harry, real life isn't a Hollywood movie.

All these Soldiers were struck in the head with FMJ bullets and not one soldier is forcefully propelled forward and in fact not even one falls forward, they simply crumple straight down and fall back towards the shooters.



Mythbusters had multiple men firing into a pig carcass and it barely moved.

The Current Z Film images being posted on this Forum are outdated. Even the Z Film images that you are posting has all kinds of crappola consistently flying through it. That's a dead giveaway that this "material" dates way back.

So you think the closest images that we have to what's on the actual Zapruder Film is outdated but your digitally enhanced Zapruder Frames which obscures detail and is not much better than being covered with Vaseline is the Gold standard, Interesting!

JohnM

[John Corbett]

And Amos Euins said he heard 4 shots. He is a major close up witness who not only heard the shots but was looking AT the shooter AS the shooter fired the rifle.

And  Amos said the shooter was sticking the rifle OUT the window and yet Amos saw no scope on the rifle.

But Arnold Rowland from a block away , DID see a scope on the rifle in the hands of some person at the SW 6th floor at 12:15.

Eagle Eye Rowland  however completely missed seeing the SE window shooter sticking a rifle out the window while Amos was watching the shooter at 12:30.

So these witness DRIVE me crazy lolz

This is why uncorroborated witnesses should not be trusted. Not because they lie but because they don't have perfect recall. One witness said the rifle had no scope and another said it did. How can they both be right? Should we believe that Oswald had the scope on the rifle at 12:15, took it off before he shot JFK, then put it back on before he hid it behind some boxes? The event happened only one way yet if we believe all the witnesses, it happened a dozen or more ways. People who rely primarily on eye and ear witness accounts instead of the hard evidence are very, very foolish.

[Royell Storing]

JohnC is right, you've been watching too much Dirty Harry, real life isn't a Hollywood movie.

All these Soldiers were struck in the head with FMJ bullets and not one soldier is forcefully propelled forward and in fact not even one falls forward, they simply crumple straight down and fall back towards the shooters.



Mythbusters had multiple men firing into a pig carcass and it barely moved.



So you think the closest images that we have to what's on the actual Zapruder Film is outdated but your digitally enhanced Zapruder Frames which obscures detail and is not much better than being covered with Vaseline is the Gold standard, Interesting!

JohnM

   Come on now John. We do Not know that ALL of those guys were shot in the head. What I do know is that NOT a single head EXPLODES. Not 1!
   And the template for "Dirty Harry", before there was "Dirty Harry" (1971), was Frank "Bullitt" (1968).

[Zeon Mason]

JohnC is right, you've been watching too much Dirty Harry, real life isn't a Hollywood movie.

All these Soldiers were struck in the head with FMJ bullets and not one soldier is forcefully propelled forward and in fact not even one falls forward, they simply crumple straight down and fall back towards the shooters.



Mythbusters had multiple men firing into a pig carcass and it barely moved.



So you think the closest images that we have to what's on the actual Zapruder Film is outdated but your digitally enhanced Zapruder Frames which obscures detail and is not much better than being covered with Vaseline is the Gold standard, Interesting!

JohnM

So would not this  pig body and those soldiers not moving much after being shot with a bullet presumably at  2000ft/ sec velocity, negate the argument for the SBT bullet (only 1500 ft/sec) having caused JCs upper body and right shoulder to move so dramatically forward and rotating at Z224-Z230)?

[John Mytton]

   Come on now John. We do Not know that ALL of those guys were shot in the head. What I do know is that NOT a single head EXPLODES. Not 1!

What I do know is that NOT a single head EXPLODES. Not 1!

Kennedy's head doesn't literally EXPLODE either, so what's your point?

We do Not know that ALL of those guys were shot in the head.

Well, the guy at the front certainly was shot in the head and there is an expulsion of a cloud of biological matter just behind the hat flying off. There is simply not enough "Zapruder" type resolution to make out the rest.



And considering that we know that the first Soldier was struck in the head and nearly all the shooters are aiming at the same height it follows that their targets were the Soldier's heads. The idea was to kill them, not give them survivable flesh wounds. Doh!



But at the end of the day wherever you think they may have been struck, your absurd theory that the force of a bullet flung Kennedy into the back of his seat has been thoroughly destroyed.

JohnM

[Royell Storing]

JohnC is right, you've been watching too much Dirty Harry, real life isn't a Hollywood movie.

All these Soldiers were struck in the head with FMJ bullets and not one soldier is forcefully propelled forward and in fact not even one falls forward, they simply crumple straight down and fall back towards the shooters.



Mythbusters had multiple men firing into a pig carcass and it barely moved.



So you think the closest images that we have to what's on the actual Zapruder Film is outdated but your digitally enhanced Zapruder Frames which obscures detail and is not much better than being covered with Vaseline is the Gold standard, Interesting!

JohnM

   BUMP with respect to, "....ALL these soldiers were struck in the head............"