Zapruder film "fakery" and the ED Forum Kooks!

[Royell Storing]

I wouldn't call the things you think are important that nobody else does "virgin ground". I also don't know what that has to do with the blood and brain splatter and the Newmans.

   Hello? McFly?...........  (1) So name somebody else that pointed out the Car is Not on the Wiegman Film? (2) Name somebody else that Proved the Huge Gates were "wide open". (3) Name somebody else that challenged the time stamping of Walthers/Harkness/Phony Cop being on the Darnell Film.  (4) Name somebody else that pointed out blood/brain matter was on the grass around the Newman Family.  ALL of this is "virgin ground". And the car is a continuing investigation. I hope to have more "getaway" car information within the next 2-4 weeks. ..............................  STAY TUNED   ..............................   McFly!   

[John Corbett]

   Hello? McFly?...........  (1) So name somebody else that pointed out the Car is Not on the Wiegman Film? (2) Name somebody else that Proved the Huge Gates were "wide open". (3) Name somebody else that challenged the time stamping of Walthers/Harkness/Phony Cop being on the Darnell Film.  (4) Name somebody else that pointed out blood/brain matter was on the grass around the Newman Family.  ALL of this is "virgin ground". And the car is a continuing investigation. I hope to have more "getaway" car information within the next 2-4 weeks. ..............................  STAY TUNED   ..............................   McFly!

Name somebody else who cares.

[Royell Storing]

Name somebody else who cares.

     "Name somebody"?  As my Uncle Joe like'd to say, "You're acting like a jackass backed up against a cold wall". Put this energy you're wasting into doing some "virgin ground" JFK Assassination Research.

[John Mytton]

The ongoing Zapruder Fakery debate over at the Ed Forum is getting increasingly bitchy and instead of addressing the nuts and bolts of the actual methodology of what SFX were capable of in 1963 they are debating the Zapruder deal and when it happened and where the film went and who had control, blah blah blah. Because at the end of the day the only important fact is what's on the film and how it got there. Hofeling's only evidence regarding the film fakery is a couple of filmmakers who say that the black back of head patch looks like it was painted on, but remember that what they were shown was a heavily manipulated and "logarithmically enhanced" Zapruder frame(Z317).

I also see that Hofeling has said that the images printed in LIFE magazine came from a black and white dupe and Kevin Balch giving evidence that the B&W prints were just caused by a time constraint, but regardless these early images are all exact copies of what we see in the Zapruder film, and considering that all these key frames can be reinserted into the Zapruder Film and were published in LIFE magazine dated a week later but according to Dr. Josiah Thompson was distributed on the morning of the following Tuesday, effectively ruling out any time consuming fakery. Because allowing for acquiring, organizing, printing and distribution only leaves precious hours for any alteration to occur.



I also see that Brugioni as presented by Hofeling is a powerful eyewitness, in that he saw the "original" but what did he see?

Brugioni describes white above Kennedy's head. Obviously the Harper fragment.



Brugioni also describes a white halo in FRONT of Kennedy's head. After many decades his memory of the colour is a little off?



And what do you know, what Brugioni described is essentially a near perfect take on the Zapruder film, and what we can establish from Brugioni is that there was NO back of head injury seen on the original Zapruder film. And most important of all is why would all the Zapruder alterationist's who are trying to push a back of head injury totally ignore the most relevant fact in this entire Brugioni saga??



Another factoid being endorsed by Hofeling is that Brugioni initially saw the straight from camera Zapruder original because that version obviously had the inter sprocket images and the copies did not. This matters because it affects the various timelines of the Zapruder film and subsequent copies.
In the following Brugioni interview and after being asked "if there was any image bleed over between the sprocket holes" Brugioni replies "NO"!

What is hilarious is Hofeling showing a photo of an optical printer which was designed for either 16mm or 35mm film because that is somehow relevant to 8mm film!? If anything, transferring 8mm film to 16mm film, and then manipulating the 16mm film, and then transferring it back to 8mm film would have such a film grain build up, the film would be barely watchable. And as is easily discernible on the widely available copies of the Zapruder film, they do not show multi generational layers of film grain.

JohnM

[John Mytton]

Much is made of the spray of biological mist and the length of time that it should be visible.



JohnM

[John Mytton]

"They could do anything", apparently the sky was the limit in 1963 at Hawkeyeworks and Hofeling even cited the end ladder rescue sequence in "It's a Mad Mad Mad World" a film released in 1963 as showing what was possible in Zapruder!!?

The following clip from "It's a Mad Mad Mad World" has some static locked off shots which composites crowds with some miniatures, a green screen actor in front of a fast moving backdrop, some practical effects, more green screen actors in front of a static background and some miniature dummies being dropped on some wires and that's it, the total sum of what was available at the time and a very far cry of what we see in Zapruder.



Whereas the Zapruder film has no static shots and every frame has various amount of complicated camera blur on the backgrounds, the Limo and the individual elements of people in the background. Isolating and altering any one frame requires that each individual element must be composited with the appropriate motion blur, that even now can only be accomplished with computers that approximate the effect.



Finally take a look at the little seen frame Z318, the frame after the often cited Z317(the frame with the black patch), and try and imagine painting a black patch with the corresponding mathematically accurate motion blur on a section of film which is tinier than a pin head!



JohnM

[John Mytton]

Hi John.. just catching up on this and wow! Do you ever post on that forum?

Hi Tommy, thanks for reading my post and no, I don't post on the Ed Forum because posting here is more than enough for me.

JohnM