Are there any "researchers" here who started out as LNs but who are now CTs?

[John Corbett]

LN's or CT's have nothing to do with the " Truth " .

Is there a third choice? Maybe JFK died from a self-inflicted wound.

[Tom Graves]

Had I been on the jury in the Clay Shaw trial, I would have voted not guilty. I have not however read the Garrison book On the Trail of the Assassins and base this verdict on the Oliver Stone movie JFK, which is entertaining but for a large part speculation and fantasy.

Garrison lied in his 1988 book, On the Trail of the Assassins, when he said he didn't find out until after the 1969 trial that the (Communist-owned) Italian newspaper Paese Sera had published an article three days after he had arrested Clay Shaw in March 1967 (on suspicion of having masterminded a homosexual thrill-kill assassination of JFK!), which Paese Sera article claimed that Shaw was an evil, evil CIA agent and that he had tried to help reinstate Fascism in Italy in the 1950s!

Factoid: Joan Mellen's ex-husband, far-left Ralph Schoenman (who was far-left Bertran Russell's secretary in London) had provided Garrison in 1967 with a translated-into-English knockoff version of the story that was published in the far-left French newspaper, L' Humanite.

Our very own Gary "Snideness" Aguilar debated Max Holland on this issue several years ago on C-Span and tried to destroy Holland's argument by pointing out that a far-left French newspaper had published an article on the 1961 "Generals' Plot" a day or two before Paese Sera had.

LOL!

https://www.c-span.org/program/american-history-tv/warren-report-the-garrison-investigation/136882

[Joffrey van de Wiel]

Garrison lied in his 1988 book, On the Trail of the Assassins, when he said he didn't find out until after the 1969 trial that the (Communist-owned) Italian newspaper Paese Sera had published an article three days after he had arrested Clay Shaw in March 1967 (on suspicion of having masterminded a homosexual thrill-kill assassination of JFK!!!), which alleged that Shaw was a CIA agent and that he had tried to help it reinstate Fascism in Italy in the 1950s!!!

Well Tom, I am still going to read the book. I find it hard to believe that Garrison didn't uncover anything of value in his long investigation of Oswald in New Orleans. Also curious about the source for the question asked of Marina Oswald on the night of the 24th of November if I recall the date correctly: if her husband had known a David Ferry (sic).

Ferrie, Banister, Shaw, Dean Andrews, the Cubans, Sergio Arcacha Smith etc, it will be an interesting read.

[Tom Graves]

Well Tom, I am still going to read the book. I find it hard to believe that Garrison didn't uncover anything of value in his long investigation of Oswald in New Orleans. Also curious about the source for the question asked of Marina Oswald on the night of the 24th of November if I recall the date correctly: if her husband had known a David Ferry (sic).

Ferrie, Banister, Shaw, Dean Andrews, the Cubans, Sergio Arcacha Smith etc, it will be an interesting read.

Fine, but you should balance it out by reading Patricia Lambert's book, "False Witness," which you can read for free by googling "false witness" "lambert" and "archive" simultaneously.

[Michael T. Griffith]

Are there any JFKA "researchers" here who started out as Lone Nutters but who are now Tin-Foil Hat Conspiracy Theorists? How about the other way around? Don't be shy.

Your extreme bias and lack of objectivity never fail to manifest themselves in your posts.

For most of my adult life, I wholly accepted the WC's conclusions. I believed that Oswald was guilty and that he acted alone. I changed my mind in the 1990s after I began to read books on the assassination.

The only people wearing "tin-foil hats" are those who still ardently defend the WC's lone-gunman theory.

It is worth noting, again, that numerous surveys have shown that 2/3 to 3/4 of adults in the Western world reject the WC's lone-gunman theory.

It is also worth noting, again, that the last official federal investigation into the JFK case, i.e., the 1977-1979 House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), rejected the WC's lone-gunman finding and concluded that JFK was killed by a conspiracy that involved two gunmen and that one of the gunmen fired from the grassy knoll.

 

[John Corbett]

Your extreme bias and lack of objectivity never fail to manifest themselves in your posts.

For most of my adult life, I wholly accepted the WC's conclusions. I believed that Oswald was guilty and that he acted alone. I changed my mind in the 1990s after I began to read books on the assassination.

The only people wearing "tin-foil hats" are those who still ardently defend the WC's lone-gunman theory.

It is worth noting, again, that numerous surveys have shown that 2/3 to 3/4 of adults in the Western world reject the WC's lone-gunman theory.

It is also worth noting, again, that the last official federal investigation into the JFK case, i.e., the 1977-1979 House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), rejected the WC's lone-gunman finding and concluded that JFK was killed by a conspiracy that involved two gunmen and that one of the gunmen fired from the grassy knoll.

Fortunately, the truth is not subject to popular support. The HSCA's conclusion of a second gunman was FUBAR based on junk science that was never vetted of peer reviewed prior to its acceptance by the HSCA. It will be a cold day in hell before I let a committee of congressmen do my thinking for me.

[Tom Graves]

Numerous surveys have shown that 2/3 to 3/4 of adults in the Western world reject the WC's lone-gunman theory.

Which is an indication of just how pervasive and influential KGB disinformation ops have been ever since it set up Department D in the First Chief Directorate (today's SVR) and Department 14 in the Second Chief Directorate in 1959 and started applying them to the JFK assassination literally on Day One (11/22/63) via Morris Childs (FBI's SOLO) in Moscow.

The KGB's "Master Plan" / "Master Plot" of getting us to defeat ourselves by waging disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations against the CIA, the FBI, and the intelligence services of our NATO allies which began in 1959 (see above) really came to fruition after it planted an article in the Communist-owned Italian newspaper Paese Sera in March 1967 which motivated overly ambitious, scandal-plagued, and revengeful Jim Garrison to change his theory against Clay Shaw from "He masterminded the homosexual 'thrill kill' assassination of JFK!" to "He was a "highly paid contract agent" for the evil, evil CIA, and he organized the assassination for it!!!"

How many times have you watched the self-described mythological ("to counter the myth of the Warren Report") movie, "JFK," by Garrison's hagiographer, Oliver Stone, now, Griffith?