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Online John Corbett

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Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Reply #469 on: Yesterday at 01:43:08 PM »
The vast majority of those who recalled the shot spacing said there was a longish pause after the first shot, followed by two more shots closer together but still distinct shots.  Some of those said the space ratio was about 2:1. e.g. Robert Jackson, Sen. Ralph Yarborough, Forrest Sorrels.

Andrew continues to be led astray by what witnesses think they remember.

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Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Reply #470 on: Yesterday at 05:22:33 PM »
Andrew continues to be led astray by what witnesses think they remember.

Claiming there were three shots because of the earwitnesses makes you different in what way? Even your premier go to witness JBC stated he only heard two shots.
His recollection of the days events are the product of him watching the Zapruder film in the hospital. So much for his memory and testimony.

Online Andrew Mason

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Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Reply #471 on: Yesterday at 07:32:55 PM »
Andrew continues to be led astray by what witnesses think they remember.
Better than being led astray by what you think witnesses didn’t remember.
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Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Reply #472 on: Yesterday at 07:51:57 PM »
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC, you believe JBC was hit around Z-273 when he was turned so far to his right that his upper torso was almost facing JFK.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z273.jpg

Question: If the bullet entered JBC's chest and exited his back near his right armpit, why is it that your so-called "entrance wound" is so much larger than your so-called "exit wound"?
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Online John Corbett

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Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Reply #473 on: Yesterday at 09:00:42 PM »
Claiming there were three shots because of the earwitnesses makes you different in what way? Even your premier go to witness JBC stated he only heard two shots.
His recollection of the days events are the product of him watching the Zapruder film in the hospital. So much for his memory and testimony.

I like how you pretend you don't know that there were three spent shells found in the sniper's nest. While not proof positive, it does corroborate the consensus of the witnesses that there were three shots, including the testimony of the three employees who were directly below Oswald. The three spent shells aren't proof positive of three shots, but I find it extremely unlikely that both the consensus is wrong AND Oswald started with an empty shell in the rifle, because that is the only way there could only have been two shots.

BTW, what do you believe caused Tague's injury?

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Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Reply #474 on: Yesterday at 09:18:36 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC, you believe JBC was hit around Z-273 when he was turned so far to his right that his upper torso was almost facing JFK.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z273.jpg
The evidence of 47 witnesses tells us that the second shot was close to the third shot and after the midpoint between shots 1 and 3. The evidence of another 25 witnesses tells us that the first shot struck JfK and another 22 provided evidence that is inconsistent with a first shot before z186. Greer said he turned around for the first time almost simultaneously with the sound of the second shot. Hickey said the hair on the right side of JFK’s head flew up atcthe same time as the second shot sounded. JFK’s hair is flying up by z273. JBC suddenly twists to his right between z271-272 and starts moving forward before falling back onto his wife at z278 just as Greer turns around. In my assessment of the evidence, the best fit for the time of the second shot is z271-272.

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Question: If the bullet entered JBC's chest and exited his back near his right armpit, why is it that your so-called "entrance wound" is so much larger than your so-called "exit wound"?
I am not sure why you would think the bullet entered his chest and exited his right armpit.  Did you have a rough night?  The evidence is pretty clear that the bullet entered the right armpit, exited under the right nipple and struck the back of his radius.
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« Reply #475 on: Yesterday at 10:32:33 PM »
The evidence of 47 witnesses tells us that the second shot was close to the third shot and after the midpoint between shots 1 and 3. The evidence of another 25 witnesses tells us that the first shot struck JfK and another 22 provided evidence that is inconsistent with a first shot before z186. Greer said he turned around for the first time almost simultaneously with the sound of the second shot. Hickey said the hair on the right side of JFK’s head flew up atcthe same time as the second shot sounded. JFK’s hair is flying up by z273. JBC suddenly twists to his right between z271-272 and starts moving forward before falling back onto his wife at z278 just as Greer turns around. In my assessment of the evidence, the best fit for the time of the second shot is z271-272.
I am not sure why you would think the bullet entered his chest and exited his right armpit.  Did you have a rough night?  The evidence is pretty clear that the bullet entered the right armpit, exited under the right nipple and struck the back of his radius.

You seem to be saying that JBC was facing the general direction of the TSBD when he was hit.

If that's what you're saying, how is that consistent with the fact that the bullet penetrated his back near his right armpit and exited his chest?
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